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  • All "unsolicited" emails

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  1. #1
    Affiliate Manager DreamPrints's Avatar
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    Exclamation What is SPAM?
    Hi, everyone

    When you find in the internet a site that would be your perfect potential business partner, go to his contact page and find only email, do you write him?

    Is it what they call "unsolicited" email and do you risk being accused of SPAMMING.

    What do you yourself think about receiving such emails from human beings, who (however) did not ask for your permission to email you?

    Why then people make their emails public if the do not want anyone to contact them?

    Is SPAM worth rejecting offers from human beings only because the letter was sent in "unsolicited" manner.

    Share your experience, please.

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    When you are using the contact e-mail on a site to contact the owner and ask a question that is not SPAM... because that is what the e-mail contact is for on that site.

    But if you get that e-mail and start sending the person a bunch of ads and no real question or a real reason for the person you are contacting to REPLY... then it is SPAM........

    Basically if you send e-mails that you do not expect to get responses from.. but RESULTS as in SALES.... then it is SPAM in my book.......

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    unsolicited commercial email, so, an email that has a financial impetus that wasn't requested by the recipient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    unsolicited commercial email, so, an email that has a financial impetus that wasn't requested by the recipient.
    Except a couple of my best merchants approached me before I'd even considered them.

    I think there has to be an element of bulk-sending too. A good targetted email from a pro-active AM to a prospective affiliate is well worth receiving.

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    Why then people make their emails public if the do not want anyone to contact them?
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    Please. Not wanting to get unsolicited ads does not equate to not wanting "anyone" to contact them.

    Businesses make their emails public so CUSTOMERS can contact them!

    Is SPAM worth rejecting offers from human beings only because the letter was sent in "unsolicited" manner.
    SPAM is hard/impossible to trust. Too many scammers use spam to push their "offers" or to phish.

    Another thing is, I never see spam to my business email that's remotely relevant. Some idiot in China keeps trying to sell me a shipload of LED lights. WTF?!?

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    As far as this question:

    "When you find in the internet a site that would be your perfect potential business partner, go to his contact page and find only email, do you write him?"

    I don't see any problem with that. I have a contact form and I have no problem with merchants contacting me about their affiliate program. I like it.

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    SPAM = Anything I didn't ask for.


    When people use my contact forms to get intouch, that's what they are there for, I'm asking for them to ask me questions or order.

    The stuff I get from merchants asking me to sign up come from opt-in.
    CJ, SAS, LinkShare, ABW are a few newsletter/merchant-sign-ups
    I have also asked for.

    All that crap for gambling, drugs, sex, dating, stock quotes, etc. is all SPAM

    Otherwise drop me a line if it's legit and/or I've opt'ed in

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    I agree with Cursal. Uninvited email is SPAM - the stuff I ask for is not.
    Lately, in addition to drug, gambling and mortgage spam I have started receiving regular spam pushing "replica watches." Guess a spammer had a bit of response to a mail out and so more spamers are joining the ranks.
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    Everything in my inbox.

    All unsolicited emails that I have in no way, shape or form opted into. There is maybe 0.05% of unsolicited emails that I receive that I actually do not mind..and many times browse through.
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    I don't mind getting something if it is genuinely related to my site. For example, companies will often email me about contests that they are running and ask if I will add them to my contest listings. Cool for me because it adds to my content and is very little work! On the other hand, if they keep sending me things because they did not hear back from me, I get really mad. I'll respond if I want to. If I don't respond, assume that I don't want what you are sending.
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    Kinda off Topic:

    Quote Originally Posted by FluxAds.com
    Everything in my inbox.

    All unsolicited emails that I have in no way, shape or form opted into. There is maybe 0.05% of unsolicited emails that I receive that I actually do not mind..and many times browse through.
    You really need to set up filters and/or get a REAL spam blocker.

    Geez, maybe just delete that email addy and start fresh, only letting those who need to know, know the new contact address.


    That really sucks, what the point of email if < 1% is legit?
    How do your affiliates contact you?
    I would be worried I would miss an important message....

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    People soliciting link exchanges who never even looked at your site seem to think that they aren't spammers just because they are not asking for money in exchange for goods. They just want payment in a different form. If they even put up your link, it is usually in a way that they will receive benefit from your link but you won't from theirs.
    Comments are opinion unless otherwise noted. Remember, pillage first. Then burn. Half of all people in the world have IQs under 100. You best learn to trust ol' SSanf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSanf
    People soliciting link exchanges who never even looked at your site seem to think that they aren't spammers just because they are not asking for money in exchange for goods. They just want payment in a different form. If they even put up your link, it is usually in a way that they will receive benefit from your link but you won't from theirs.
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    Something my mom used to cook on the stove top and call a meal.

    Seriously, spam is about 90% of my email.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helpingmoms
    On the other hand, if they keep sending me things because they did not hear back from me, I get really mad. I'll respond if I want to. If I don't respond, assume that I don't want what you are sending.
    I TOTALLY agree with this one. I get so tired of people who can't take a hint. I must get 500 people a day who are a "perfect match" for my site... gaming, gambling, Viagra, debt consolidation, you name it. I just don't have time to reply to these people begging me to get rich from their program. The problem is, if I do write them back and say, "Thanks for writing but we are not interested...." I get MORE mail telling me why I am wrong, and they know my demographic better than I do. PAHLEEZE! If I ignore those, they start calling me on the horn. I get so many calls these days, that I am not EVEN answering the phone anymore unless I see a name I recognize and like. So If I pick up the phone, consider it an honor, lol!

    Anyway, I don't mind people writing about programs that WOULD be of interest to my shoppers, however, 95% of the contact I have from unknown affiliate managers includes crud I would NEVER put on my site, ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helpingmoms
    I don't mind getting something if it is genuinely related to my site. For example, companies will often email me about contests that they are running and ask if I will add them to my contest listings. Cool for me because it adds to my content and is very little work!
    Oh, thanks God, Helpingmoms! I am a merchant myself and I thoroughly choose the sites that will be a perfect match to my program (celebrity). I am pleased to see that at least some webmasters are not against such emails.

    Honestly, I put all my heart into these emails and it is a little bit offending to be supposed a SPAMMER after that!

    So what is the best way to contact a webmaster then if you know only his email

    Thanks to all for participating...

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    So as far as I can see, the first option is ahead...
    Quite disappointing for me. Looks like few people here like to be bothered with any offers ... and there can be few worthy ones among them

    Regards,

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    Hi all
    Alan Jackson here, no, not the singer, but an intrested party in this subject. I like many if not all of you recieve more than my fair share of unrequested emails, most of it would be considered spam. However I sympathize with these people, from what I can see it is really tough to get a paycheck from the internet, with very limited knowledge.

    So I just let them be. The person behind the email, at least I figure, isn't very knowledgeable. And I assume they have their hands full, just trying to get a dollar.

    I as a general rule will just keep on deleting the emails. And I do agree if there is a dollar value behind the email, then if it wasn't requested, then it is spam.

    Have A Great Day!

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    However I sympathize with these people, from what I can see it is really tough to get a paycheck from the internet, with very limited knowledge.


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    Is it "spam" to recruit affiliates? No, if done right.
    Speaking as someone who has been a very vocal and aggressive opponent of spammers since 1996, I can say that this is an issue I've carefully considered.

    One issue here is, "what is unsolicited?" If someone operate a web site that carries third-party advertising, and has posted a contact email address or a contact form, I don't think it's reasonable to call an offer of paid advertising "spam."

    A web site that carries paid advertising should not be surprised or offended to receive an offer of paid advertising on the site, unless there is contrary information on the site (and yes, I have to look, and not to just grab the first email address I find; and it's never OK to use a robot/scraper, nor to "buy a list" for affiliate recruiting).

    In the past, I've encountered a few web sites that say right up front that they refuse all paid advertising, and I don't solicit those webmasters to become affiliates. (If the site has a "links page," I may write to ask for a link, but if they don't, I wouldn't.)

    As I've mentioned in several other posts, during the past week I've been helping a merchant launch a new affiliate program (which I still can't name here until Haiko(ABW) or Brian(SAS) tells me how to pay for an announcement). I spent the past few days identifying and recruiting web sites to become affiliates. As I mentioned in another thread (http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=77926), it's been frustrating because so many of these web sites are "orphaned," without any valid contact information. My practice has been to seek out a link specific to advertising or business matters, and I only send email to an address like editor@ or support@ if no other address can be found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Jackson
    Alan Jackson here, no, not the singer, but an intrested party in this subject. I like many if not all of you recieve more than my fair share of unrequested emails, most of it would be considered spam. However I sympathize with these people, from what I can see it is really tough to get a paycheck from the internet, with very limited knowledge.

    So I just let them be. The person behind the email, at least I figure, isn't very knowledgeable. And I assume they have their hands full, just trying to get a dollar.

    I as a general rule will just keep on deleting the emails. And I do agree if there is a dollar value behind the email, then if it wasn't requested, then it is spam.

    Have A Great Day!

    Alan Jackson



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Jackson
    Alan Jackson here, no, not the singer, but an intrested party in this subject. I like many if not all of you recieve more than my fair share of unrequested emails, most of it would be considered spam. However I sympathize with these people, from what I can see it is really tough to get a paycheck from the internet, with very limited knowledge.

    So I just let them be. The person behind the email, at least I figure, isn't very knowledgeable. And I assume they have their hands full, just trying to get a dollar.

    I as a general rule will just keep on deleting the emails. And I do agree if there is a dollar value behind the email, then if it wasn't requested, then it is spam.

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    I agree with alot of that. As long as it is a question which is not soliciting a sale and has pertinent information. It is not spam. I do think though that it should be written for the individual and you should not keep writing if you get no response.

    I do however think it is spam if you send a copy of a past HTML e-mail as it was not really written for that person but is fully relevant. There are too many definitions and everyone has their own idea of spam. Just use common sense and read the definition in like wikipedia or the BBB or something.

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    The person behind the email, at least I figure, isn't very knowledgeable.
    I'm not so sure about this...I have a feeling a lot of spammers are very very smart. I mean, there are entire profitable companies out there who's job it is to keep out spam. AND THEY DON'T GET IT RIGHT 100% OF THE TIME!

    These people are not clueless. They know exactly what they are doing.
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    SPAM = 9 out of 10 emails that I get most days.

    Also I found out it's a delicacy in Hawaii for some reason
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