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    Can you make money with datafeed sites anymore
    I know at one time everyone was doing them.... is it worth it now? or is it better to just create an information/review site with minimal links leading away to a merchant?

    p.s if you use datafeeds, when you get them, do you sit down and organize them in excel, seems like a tiresome job

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    >>>p.s if you use datafeeds, when you get them, do you sit down and organize them in excel, seems like a tiresome job

    That is the correct question - imho

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    Exactly.

    Tiresome, but worthwhile.

    Go out of your way to make your site as different as possible from everybody else's. The SE's still may not be as friendly as they used to be, and it's certainly a hit-or-miss proposition, but if your site isn't different than a slew of others, the SE's aren't going to be nice at all.
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    Ditto. My orginal FrontPage sites from years ago with just html links still outshine most of my datafeed sites. But, with everything, there are exceptions. I have a few datafeed driven sites that pay most of the bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morethanable
    I know at one time everyone was doing them.... is it worth it now? or is it better to just create an information/review site with minimal links leading away to a merchant?

    p.s if you use datafeeds, when you get them, do you sit down and organize them in excel, seems like a tiresome job
    If you can get 'em seen, they still make plenty of money. The SE algos change, but the Consumers--the ones actually doing the buying--haven't changed any.

    As for organization, PHP and MySQL can do that job while you play games.

    Otherwise, with practice, you can organize a single feed in a spreadsheet in just a few minutes. For the basic stuff like alphabetization and that sort of thing, it's the same keystrokes every time for each feed (unless the merchant makes a major change), so after you've done it for a while it can become practically automatic for you.

    Even so, manually updating gets old fast.

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    All I can say is that,

    one of our largest affiliate is running using a data feed.


    Second largest, hard core HTML code. Hard labor but he is paying his bills with our program

    It all depends...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairFieldGetaway-EricEwe
    All I can say is that,

    one of our largest affiliate is running using a data feed.


    Second largest, hard core HTML code. Hard labor but he is paying his bills with our program

    It all depends...
    B of these could actually be feeds. Just because you're using a feed doesn't mean it isn't hard core html.

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    one of our largest affiliate is running using a data feed.
    Right out of the box and off the shelf as is, or is there some degree of customization to the feed or the pages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webworker
    Right out of the box and off the shelf as is, or is there some degree of customization to the feed or the pages?
    I believe that there is some customization.

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    You can definitely make money with datafeeds, but it's very competitive and difficult to acquire traffic for them. It's really easy to create datafeed sites with little to no value to shoppers. They'll come once and never return, then when the search engines drop you you'll be stuck with no traffic at all. If your goal is to accumulate loyal shoppers and establish yourself as a shopping brand you'll probably want to put some programming resources into datafeed use. Otherwise you may be better off starting a blog, writing reviews or creating buying guides. Lots of ways to go, but it's best just to play towards your talents.

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    for me datafeed is dead, all my DF sites gone to supplemental result

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    The now famous "Dirk Gardner" post:
    Building UNIQUE autoupdating bulletproof datafeed sites that sell.
    http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=60200

    You'll find methods there to:
    use preg replace to mitigate duplicate content penalties
    use mod-rewrite for dynamic page naming that improves indexing
    automate datefeed downloading and updating to save time
    and a lot more...

    Yes, you can make money off of datafeed sites. I do anyhow.

    And Dirk is a legend for this thread in my opinion. It's not easy to digest all that he described there and a few strings weren't followed to completion (he could write a lengthy ebook and still not finish), but if you're technically inclined, it's a great place to begin learning the real answer to the question you asked above.

    Good luck.

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    Yup..
    Used responsibly (ie, all the great things Donuts shared above...and the great tips from that thread URL he provided), Datafeeds are one of the most potent Affiliate marketing tools there are. The key is getting product detail pages to win favorable SERPs. so...

    Something as simple as re-naming top-level categories slightly or tweaking some of the navigation can do wonders..

    With that said, it's my opinion that you should not publish datafeed-only web sites. For best results there has to be some of your own creative writing or network effect to keep your site ranking well.

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    thanks guyz.. was informative.

    what software do you use, just mysql and php?

    do you recommend a book to learn that.. i do recall on this forum somewhere there was a book being advertised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morethanable
    what software do you use, just mysql and php?
    There is a thread started by Addhandler that addresses that question and you will find there are as many answers as there are affiliates creating sites.
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    Excel is a spreadsheet, it's not really intended for database applications.

    Best way to use a datafeed is to NOT rely on the "product description" field. That's just ASKING to be penalised for duplicate content.

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    Plenty of people making money using the merchant descriptions:P

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    Plenty of people making money using the merchant descriptions:P
    But plenty of people are also getting their rankings tanked for having dups.

    Besides, it's also a matter of how much is being earned. There are some real oddball non-competitive search terms that can pull a little traffic out of the supplemental index, but when a whole site goes supplemental the earnings capacity totally dwindles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webworker
    But plenty of people are also getting their rankings tanked for having dups.

    Besides, it's also a matter of how much is being earned. There are some real oddball non-competitive search terms that can pull a little traffic out of the supplemental index, but when a whole site goes supplemental the earnings capacity totally dwindles.
    What if the webmaster changes/edits the product descriptions?
    Would changing the descriptions help to avoid getting "tanked?"
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    when a whole site goes supplemental the earnings capacity totally dwindles.
    there has been a recent hint in a Google blog that supplemental may not be as bad as it seems. not sure if they meant right now or sometime soon. or "not as bad" but in which way . . .

    I'm speculating that supplemental pages may regain some authority. Certain directory pages hardly ever change (by function) but does that make them stale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herb ԿԬ
    I'm speculating that supplemental pages may regain some authority. Certain directory pages hardly ever change (by function) but does that make them stale?
    Perhaps Google classifies sites into separate categories and bases its "supplemental designation" upon type? Could a directory be "judged" by Google in a different manner than let's say a blog?
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    there has been a recent hint in a Google blog that supplemental may not be as bad as it seems.
    Wouldn't happen to have the link handy?

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    i think you've got to add value to the feed, which isn't easy. dont just post all the feed information without creatively doing something beyond that. i would post a great example of this, but it is a violation of policies here.

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    I think dup content isway over exagerrated. Most likely the problem is mor eon the side of incoming links.

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