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    Just received in my business mail:
    I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW OF A NEW INTERNET NAVIGATION TOOL BEING OFFERED BY MICROSOFT TO DIRECT TRAFFIC TO YOUR WEBSITE, BYPASSING ALL OTHER WEBSITES IN YOUR INDUSTRY.

    THE NAME OF THIS TOOL IS KEYPHRASES AND WHEN A REGISTERED PHRASE IS TYPED INTO INTERNET EXPLOYER ADDRESS BAR IT DEFAULTS TO YOUR SITE.

    THE COST IS $350 FOR ONE PHRASE FOR ONE YR.
    $600 TWO
    $750 THREE
    $1000 FOUR OR MORE
    YOU ALSO WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO PURCHASE THE SAME KEYPHRASES FOR ANOTHER YEAR AT THE SAME PRICE FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

    SOME PHRASES STILL AVAILABLE: baby catalog online, gift for babies, gift for new baby,baby supply

    PLEASE CALL ME IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TO PROMOTE YOUR WEBSITE.
    ?????

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    MJ,

    Realname scamimg affiliates?

    Forward me the source and I'l look into it. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Haiko

    [ 05-08-2002: Message edited by: Haiko ]

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    Haiko, just PM'd the details [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
    Hope it's not another "%$*&(##^^%$"!

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    Relax...

    That only redirects people that type a keyword/phrase into the address bar WITHOUT any www. http:// or anything.

    In other words, it'll only skim off some traffic that would have gone to MSN Search by default anyway.

    To see how this works,

    Type in Fredericks or Fredricks (they finally got the correct spelling registered, too) and you'll see this in action. It redirects to Fredericks of Hollywood. (There was a thread about this very example but I can't find it now--in it, someone thought this was a site-based code but I found that it's really RealNames' offering in action.)

    IF YOU'RE FAST ENOUGH, you'll see the RealNames frame. Quick, click the RealNames information part and you can get the full lowdown! If you're too slow, the frame disappears and just shows the destination site. Keep trying until you catch that bugger...it may take a couple of tries if you don't happen to have the cursor in the right spot when it comes up.

    After reading all of the Terms and Conditions associated with trying to register a RealNames Keyword, I have to say that I don't think this would work as a Parasiteware. There are many hurdles to that kind of use, as I mention below:

    The words must be nongeneric (Despite what that spam implies), the visitor has to be able to expect to reach the destination site based on the words s/he typed (the keyword Fredericks can't take people to Victoria's Secret), and the registrant must be the owner of any TMs used.

    Here's an example from that page for the Expensive plan (mentioned in the spam):

    Term Registered---Registrant

    Barbie Collectibles--Mattel
    J Crew--J Crew
    Eddie Bauer Khakis--Eddie Bauer

    The cheapo plan is similar, with the words closely matching the site name of the registrant.

    There are various filters in place for the cheapo plan, and the expensive plan must pass human review.

    Here's that link again:

    RealNames keywords Terms and Conditions

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    That's interesting Leader... and by the way it was me a last week when I thought I was being hijacked from one site when I tried to type in fredericks and ended up at another lingerie site [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    Just a thought: It's a bit rough though!
    If someone wants to go to a particular site types in the url and ends up at a competing site!
    Bit like saying to a cab driver, take me to Fredericks of Hollywood and he drops me off at Victoria's Secret!

    [ 05-09-2002: Message edited by: mousejockey ]

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    But there's a difference!

    You didn't type in a real URL--just the single word.

    It sounds much more like you told the cab driver "It's Fred something-or-other...you know the place" and he guessed that you meant Frederick's.

    The full URL would work as normal.

    Also, when I typed in the word Fredericks I ended up right at "http://www.fredericks.com/shopdepartment.asp".

    [ 05-09-2002: Message edited by: Leader ]

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    I thought I read somewhere that RealNames was abount ready to fold when MSN yanks them out of the BHO search function. Something about 30 million in a MSN loan coming due.

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    You got it Mike... Good eye spotting this thread! I saw the same thing on zdnet or some other news agency.

    Maybe they (Realnames) are looking for some suckers to cushion their fall!?

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    MJ,

    I'm still ROTFLMAO!

    They are selling the $49 basic realnames package for $350.00! out of a Florida call center. They steal the data from whois and either call or SPAM to rip off domain owners. All morning I was trying to call the number on the spam and finally had to speak with the president of the co to get transferred over to the scammer (the number was 866 (toll free) they put 688). After I spoke to the spammer and their supervisor (the first one wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] ) I called back and humbly (ahem, yeah right) suggested, to the president, that they get their act together and stop trying to rob people before they get sued to high h*ll.

    BTW - I already reported them

    Haiko
    PS. I made no reference to your site

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    Wow, wonder how many people they've scammed!

    "PS. I made no reference to your site"...
    I'm really thankful of that, Haiko [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    "BTW - I already reported them"...lol!
    Let's see how long this little scam lasts!

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    Haiko and all.. these uncovered scammers sure have some shady cohorts who will jump through hoops to take you down with them. I've seen on links from the www.cexx.org board where the hacker/programmers/sysadmins of these groups (pseudo terrorist cells) will try to break into your servers -ISP service if you use broadband (Cable/DSL) and plant some bad bugs and filter off passwords etc. My own hosting service has had to monitor my sites for intrusion attempts as I attempt to whistle blow on the scumbags. They did manage to get into my cable modem IP account and get to my hard drive and trash many files. I've never had so many spamms laden with autoexecute viruses ever.

    Hell I'm just an HTML guy and computer salesman..not a programmer. Keep your virus profiles up to date ..get a S/W or H/W firewall and anything else to secure your attack base. They don't take kindly to interferance in the scamms, spamms or spotlights. I'm sure they don't post resumes at Monster.com.

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    Mike,
    www.cexx.org is a GREAT resource!

    These Bozos are trying to sell via *idiotic* (and I mean total idiots [reading from a script]) telemarketers to unknowing domain holders a $49 service for $350 :eek: I think they qualify as part of the lowest of the low out there.

    Haiko

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>board where the hacker/programmers/sysadmins of these groups (pseudo terrorist cells) will try to break into your servers -ISP service if you use broadband (Cable/DSL) and plant some bad bugs and filter off passwords etc<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> It's probably these lunatics that have virtual closed two of my (my two best earning) sites down. Is this what my hosts admin call a DOSS attack?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I've never had so many spamms laden with autoexecute viruses ever. [/QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    I thought it was just me! I started posting here again about 2 wks ago, after that my email has been bombarded with these!! I hid my homepage and email on here. I haven't received one since. (Think maybe they are looking in here for sites to hit?) Maybe not, I just noticed it at same time.

    [ 05-09-2002: Message edited by: slbuff ]

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    I don't think that's right, I've never had my site or email visible on this board.

    I have noticed an increase in spam and little nasties in the mail lately...
    guess they're just getting desperate!

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    I noticed the exact same thing - an increase in emails that seemed to have no content. Then I get the nimda-a worm.

    I'm thinking the scumware people are so pissed off that they harvested enail addresses from every site with a CJ link, or suchlike, then started a campaign to take us out.

    To know for sure I'd need to know if non affiliate webmasters are showing the same activity. But I'd guess this is what Son of Nancy meant was going to happen last Monday.


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    Why am I reminded of the comic books I read as a kid, the ones where an evil genius of some sort always wants to take over the world?

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mousejockey:
    I don't think that's right, I've never had my site or email visible on this board.

    I have noticed an increase in spam and little nasties in the mail lately...
    guess they're just getting desperate!
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I did say MAYBE, just that this is the only board I post to and all of a sudden I'm getting those emails daily! From never to daily? Something sounds fishy.

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    buckworks.com,

    Don't worry...




    ...is here to save the day. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    lol! we need MightyMouse [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
    I've spoken to a few people not on this board regarding the amount of spam they are receiving lately, and all have noticed a significant increase.

    And it's not just "make a million overnight"
    it porn as well!
    I just received one from a jennifer with the subject when will I see you again..
    as I know a few jennifers, I opened it, and it's from drunkentennagepics.com!

    Why would anyone want to look at pics of drunken teenagers..!

    I have vague recollections from my youth of staring down the loo after a night of too many Black Russians!
    It's not a pretty sight so why on earth would anyone want to look at these sorts of pics!

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    Well that $350 place certainly is a scam then...I would have thought they were selling the Expensive realnames option (Plus, I think it's called).

    It's still not Parasiteware, though...although regular old price-gouging isn't exactly commendable either!


    As for virii, I have now been getting a single virus email a day. At least I THINK they're virii...I haven't opened any of the unexpected emails to find out!

    One of them did have a feature that makes me think there is a connection to one of my sites...

    But others seem to be coming from a car dealership I contacted last week!

    [ 05-10-2002: Message edited by: Leader ]

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    I think the plus is $15 to review.
    If you get accepted, it's $495/year I think.

    Not sure if it's parasite or not, RealNames have been the TOP 5 best performing affiliates for many merchants. Same as Looksmart.
    (not sure why Yahoo has not come up yet)

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    I have been getting a lot of various e-mails with a virus attached. I don't think it is a related issue because we are getting a lot of them at the radio station too. I've also had listeners call me and ask about things they were getting. I have also seen mentions in 2 other boards that I check into occasionally about people getting a lot of them.

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    I'm up to 30-40 a day from a variety of sources. I send some to spamcop.net and hope their service has a red alert for spamms with virus trojan horses and take action. It means our reach into the underworld of internet advertising has stung them in the pockets.

    Real Names con job:
    "Not sure if it's parasite or not, RealNames have been the TOP 5 best performing affiliates for many merchants. Same as Looksmart. (not sure why Yahoo has not come up yet)"

    Will be satisfaction when Real Names can't pay the 30 million loan to MSN due the first of this month and are forced to CLOSE DOWN. This will sure dent the merchants who might decide they need Real Affiliates ...not auditrons!!

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