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    Network Rep & ABW Ambassador Carolyn - ShareASale's Avatar
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    WebMerge: ShareASale Special Edition Templates
    Per request and many thanks to SSanf for providing guidelines!!

    Attached are HTML templates that can be used with ShareASale datafeeds and WebMerge. There is a document that shows what each template looks like populated. It also explains how to prep the datafeed. The only thing you need to do is add your finishing touch, like logos and navigational items, to the template and you're ready to run it through WebMerge.

    Please let me know how these go, and I look forward to seeing your finished products!
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    Sounds wonderful!

    I will have to look at it tomorrow when there are less interuptions!

    It will be first on the list.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for everyone who has needed this.
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    LOL, sure, sounds wonderful...thank me after they've been applied!! Call, PM or IM me if you need anything or have any suggestions on what could be improved.

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    This will be a huge help for my new site, thanks!!

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    Hi Carolyn. There are only index templates in the collection. What about the detail templates that correspond to each? I'm new to this so if the answer is a no-brainer, I apologize.

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    The index pages layouts look fantastic. Thank you.

    But, a couple of questions remain for me.

    What are we supposed to do with this?
    <-- Insert Navigational Elements Here> What do we insert?

    I think that is the part we were mostly looking for help with, how to create and link index pages to sub-pages, sub-sub-pages and so forth.

    You mentioned the fact that categories and sub-categories exist. How do we make use of them all?

    I really like the pfd. It looks great. Maybe, you could add some more to it telling us how to turn the templates into a real site. I would like it if there was a step by step process that I could follow and, then, voila! A site comes out. If it wouldn't be a whole lot of trouble, I know it will be appreciated by others as well.

    I am sorry to be a dunderhead. But, if I am one, you can bet there are many others too embarassed to admit it.
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    If you have 458 items in a single category, how do you tell webmerge to break these into smaller pages and how do you get them all into the navigation?
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    Ah, sure, those are easier, but I gotta get out from under a load of work. By Friday, okay? I figured most people wanted to drive traffic to merchant's product landing page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSanf

    I am sorry to be a dunderhead. But, if I am one, you can bet there are many others too embarassed to admit it.
    I'm not embarassed to admit it . It's been a whole week since I first started to try this WM things. I even pm a couple of members in this forum who are willing to walk me throught, including Carolyn . After all these days strugling and stumbling, I decided to give my brain a break and trun back to use my basic HTML site building skill to put up links and banners by hand. But, I'm not giving up WM. It's obviously an easy way to put up hundreds of links at one time. I just need a break.

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    Hey you,
    When your brain has recuperated (I know JUST how it is ), feel free to IM me, and I'll walk you through step-by-step on how to use WebMerge with those templates.
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    Instead of helping just one person, how good would it be to write down the walk through so we can all do it?

    Yes, I want the products I show to link to the relevant merchant's product landing page. But, I want to show quite a few items on each page. Just not 468 of them.

    I can make the pages with the products linking to the merchant correctly but getting it all to link up is the issue for me and, I think, for most people.

    You know, this stuff <-- Insert Navigational Elements Here>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolyn - ShareASale
    Hey you,
    When your brain has recuperated (I know JUST how it is ), feel free to IM me, and I'll walk you through step-by-step on how to use WebMerge with those templates.
    Sure, Sure. Since you said it. I thought you were tired of replying my emails I can't wait for my casino vacation on labor day weekend...to recuperate my brain . Might need your last push on WM. I think I almost there .

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    Ssanf is right on the money here. The only thing that constantly gives me grief is generating the categories. With my current setup a feed that is 50k products takes 4 hours to run through WM to set up the categories

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    Alright guys, we'll do another tutorial, this time with templates. In my tests, I hard-coded navs because I figured most folks would be using webmerge as a sub-set of their own site...however, I see that you are looking to use it to create entire sites.

    SO, I did get a tip from someone, but again, it would take some time for me to put a full set of training materials together. I'll see what I can do over the weekend, k?

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    We love you!!!!
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    Love me when I can figure it out, lol, don't love me for trying!! In exchange, send some positive thoughts my way, my cat's in the hospital...her kidneys I think are on their last legs. *sniffle* Thanks to those of you who've already heard me whimpering this past week...

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    Oh dear! I will light a candle for your dear cat, now. I hope she gets better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackson992
    Ssanf is right on the money here.
    The hardest thing I have had to do when working with WM folks is to explain the question to them.

    It has been like pulling teeth just to get anyone to understand what I meant by "blank templates" and "link them up". I think that is because they are so familiar with the program that the question and the request just doesn't make sense to them. I really appreciate that Carolyn has had the fortitude to, at least, try and understand what I am asking for. And, the willingness to try to provide what people who are dunderheads like me, need.

    And, I really have a strong feeling that once these are done, the usability of WM for everyone who isn't the techie type will be wonderfully improved.

    Carolyn, it may well end up being a subset of another site but it needs to be built as a stand alone, first. Links to the other parts of any site that it is a part of will probably be done through includes.

    Keeping my fingers crossed and sending kitty energy!
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    Cool
    Here is a webmerge tutorial (not an affiliate link) I found and have been working my way through. It seems to answer ssanfs questions.
    :gnome: [URL]www.gethsemenerose.com[/URL] :gnome: As for me and my SITE we shall serve the LORD!

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    I've read that tutorial. I don't think that will answer ssanfs's question. All the WM toturials I've read skip the very first step -- which ssanf asked: the templates are there, datafeeds are there, how to turn the templates into a real site? If I understand the question right, it will be: First, I open my MS Frontpage, then what? Even earlier step than that, save the datafeed could be very tricky if you didn't do it right. Thanks for judi who helped me moved away that block by sharing her own experience with the same problem. Now I'm stumbling on my way to almost there. But I'm sure it will be really helpful for WM brand new newbies if Carolyn can come out some "real" step by step tutorial thing.

    Hope kitty get well soon.

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    I think most of us have seen that tutorial. To some it makes sense, to others, it doesn't.

    Maybe it is better, now. I haven't read it lately. I got lost at the settings files last time, as I recall.

    I think if Carolyn can get these templates working and tell us how she did it, that may help. We need some concrete templates to work with, not just the theory of how it ought to work.
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    I'm on vacation at the moment, up on the boat, and internet connection is occasional and iffy, but if we can hang on until after Labor Day, I'll be glad to help as much as I can.

    I see great potential in WM, but everyone here is correct. The flaws in understanding it are part of the great geekspeak experience. The thing that compounds that to the max is the variety of ways the various feeds are put together.

    Hints to help until Carolyn makes it through this week:

    1. The settings file isn't critical until you're ready to automate what you're doing. I discovered that ignoring it doesn't hurt me with what I'm doing.
    2. Spend the majority of your time creating headers on the datafeeds that make sense to you so you can create clean categories. Once you have a way that works for you that cleans up the spaces, dashes, slashes and &'s in your category columns and then gives you category headings that will make clean file names, the rest is more understandable in the tutorial(s).
    3. Note that there are actually 2 tutorials at the top of the page in the WM forum. They are just enough different that one of them might make more sense at different stages of your efforts. Combine them with Carolyn's slide presentation and you'll make more progress.
    I actually printed all three out and laid them around on my desk the first few times. But again - most of the major errors that sent me walking around the block ended up being things in the feed that screwed up my files names.

    Gotta run. Will be around more starting Sunday. Carolyn, if I can help at all, let me know when you come up for air. I know how it is to have your kitty baby sick, too, so I'm sending good wishes that way.

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    If a smart person has to take three tutorials, lay them around on the desk and try to merge them together in his mind to try to make sense of it all, no wonder I am doomed!

    Thank you for that post. I am sure it made a lot of us who just are not into puzzles feel a lot better.
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    I think I'm getting it! I've got questions though ...

    How do I get the product name to show up inside the page title tag? This does not work:

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    [WM-Field: NAME]
    And yes, I do have the product name specified as NAME in the datafeed file.

    Do I have to use a custom field instead? If so, darn. I was hoping for a short cut. Can I use custom fields for meta tag keywords?

    Also, I have a few suggestions to merchants to supply datafeeds. I'm sure this has been brought up before but since this is the first time I've used one I thought I'd chime in.

    1) Keep your thumbnails and large images as close to the same size as possible so that the page is uniform. I'm kind of weird about a perfect layout and uniformity on a page when it loads. If the images jump from one size to another as the user clicks through the 'next item' nav menu, its really annoying.

    2) Don't put dashes in your product names. WM generates too many consecutive dashes in the product name (especially when using a space before and after the dash) and I don't like spending hours cleaning up a datafeed.

    3) If you don't have a thumb/image for a product, don't put it into the datafeed or get the images. I don't like having my site visitors confronted with dozens of "image not available" graphics. Not cool. I'd tend to leave a site if this happened to me.

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    I do a work around where I add more fields to my feed.

    < title >[WM-Record][WM-Field: Title][/WM-Record] < /title >
    < meta NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="[WM-Record][WM-Field: Title][/WM-Record] " >
    < meta NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="[WM-Record][WM-Field: KeyWords][/WM-Record]" >

    But, you can only have "Title" or "Keywords" once in the feed for each page. So, I had a program written to take out the repititions in the feed.
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