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    Hi,
    It's been a while since I've been in these parts, but I just got something in the mail that I need some assistance with...
    It is an invoice for 3 pieces of SPAM that this company received. They are trying to charge me $100/ea.! They're expecting me to pay them $300 for spam sent by a user of my free email, that I offer through everyone.net.
    I've taken other reports of spam seriously & have deleted the accounts in question. I've also received reports of spam from a non-existant account. I know this information is easily falsified, and if this "research specialist" company did any research, they'd know that it was somebody using my free email service.

    Here's what they did provide:
    CS Research Specialists
    143 4th SW NE
    Huron, SD 57350

    Qty: 3

    Description:
    Receipt of unsolicited/unsubscribed SPAM email. Your or your website/domain have been identified as the originator of the SPAM by research through the available web resources.

    Rate: 100.00
    Amount: 300.00T
    Sales Tax (0.0%): $0.00
    Total: $300.00
    Balance Due: $300.00

    At the bottom, there is a line that reads, "This invoice is due upon reciept. A Fee of 10% of the balance as interest will be..." & the rest is cut off at the bottom.

    I guess my question isn't so much about the legality of the letter, but what to do with it. I was thinking about sending them my own invoice for a "invoice processing fee of $350" and see what they do. I would contact them by phone, email or through their web site, but they did not provide any of that information on their very amateur looking invoice.

    I've searched all over & can't find any information, or a web site, for this company....I would also appreciate any information anyone can provide about them...

    Thanks everyone! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    I can't find any information about this outfit ... and it sounds like a scam. Since the demand arrived via US Mail and sounds *extremely* fishy as in possible mail fraud, I suggest contacting the Postal Inspectors.

    [ 05-23-2002: Message edited by: eaglefire ]

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    http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/sd/cooper...es_program.htm

    I see an email address near the bottom that has the title "Cooperative Specialist’s E-Mail Address".

    I'd say likely you got the mail from that person because the physical address appears to be very close (200 4th SW). It's probably a building located right next to the Federal building.


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    Some people do this now. I have sent invoices before for clearing out spam that received. I reserve that for when I'm told to just hit delete on the message and go f' myself. I in turn send them an invoice for my time. I believe yours to be a scam also. If it is legit, you could write them back and inform them that e-mail came from an everyone.net user, and it originated on their servers and not on your site. It is their terms of service that were broken, and not yours. You could even send a copy to everyone.net. I wouldn't sweat it, but you may at least want to reply in case it is legit.

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    Oh...and double check that address...doesn't seem to be valid anyway

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    You could just reply to them and tell them how very sorry you are to hear that they were so horribly inconvenienced by the messages. :rolleyes:

    Then go on to tell them you will investigate the situation, and remove the offending email account Then tell them before you can cut a check for their "invoice", you'll need their EIN, verification of physical address, incorporation documents, etc., to get them set up properly in your system so it will generate the check! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

    Doubt you'll hear from them again, and if they do respond, I'd definitely let the authorities know.

    Andy

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/sd/cooper...es_program.htm <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I found that site also but I couldn't see what SPAM had to do with the Dep't of Agriculture. I still think it's a scam. Close to doesn't quite cut it and from what you've described as the condition and appearance of the invoice, it just doesn't sound legit.

    [ 05-23-2002: Message edited by: eaglefire ]

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    Are you sure you typed the street address correctly? I went to the USPS site and looked it up and there is no such street address. However, 143 4th St NE does exist.

    So I went to infospace.com and did a reverse look-up. That address belongs to a C Miller. Phone number 605-353-9917.

    I also checked 143 4th St SW, which is also a valid address but nothing shows up in reverse lookup.

    Tracy

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    Can't be legit. If I could just send a bill to someone for any little thing I made up, I'd be a fat rich mailing man. Even the law that allow you to bill telemarketers, Deem you have to 1st request to be taken off their list. I chuck it in the garbage. It's someone,who got spams, way of thinking he can scare you into fixing his problem. Three pieces of spam is far from a overflow. I could see them being ticked if their mailbox runth over. If It there mailbox is getting flooded with spam it more likely this guy has been willy nilly with his address. Three pieces of spam. I get more spam than that a day.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I have sent invoices before for clearing out spam that received. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    TH Media: You crack me up. Has anyone ever paid this? <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/eek3.gif>Can I have their e-mail address?<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/up2something.gif>

    I've never found a way to stop junk mail from coming to my real door. I just look at spam as the same thing. I just rip up the credit card apts and mortgage loan that come to the house in the mail. I just delete the porn site and career advice e-mail. I never got hit with a mother load of spam either like I know some have.

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