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    The slot machine that IS paid! Billy Kay's Avatar
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    Yet another ignorant popup question
    It wasn't until a few months ago that I found out why AMs turn a blind eye to popups (regardless of where the money comes from, THEIR department looks good)

    I'm embarrased to say it wasn't until this morning I found out why networks turn a blind eye (they make extra money they wouldn't normally get from people doing natural searches, etc)

    My question is:

    What about the owners of the companies. The presidents. The CEOs.

    Like the CEO of Dell, or Target, or Fredericks.

    Do they know?

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    2005 Linkshare Golden Link Award Winner  ecomcity's Avatar
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    Guess who's holding the bag for those force cookie stuffers. The bigger the shield between the real management and their outside AM firm the more likely the idiots are kept in the dark.
    Webmaster's... Mike and Charlie

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    Outsourced Program Manager Angel Djambazov's Avatar
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    I once had a conversation with an AM from Dell about several coupon sites that where launching Dell pop-ups. His exact comment back to me was that he had "bigger fish to fry".
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    Affiliate Manager MINDsprinter's Avatar
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    Do pop ups even work anymore? With the mass adoption of pop-up blockers I can't believe people even pay for pop up ads! I mean, I haven't seen a pop up in months!

    Perhaps publishers throw these in as a "freebie" for extra income?

    --Jason

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    Outsourced Program Manager Angel Djambazov's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINDsprinter
    Do pop ups even work anymore? With the mass adoption of pop-up blockers I can't believe people even pay for pop up ads! I mean, I haven't seen a pop up in months!

    Perhaps publishers throw these in as a "freebie" for extra income?

    --Jason
    It is not a pay for placement situation, rather those who use pop tactics are using them to set the cookie for that merchant without an affirmative end user action. So what was a CPA model turns into a CPV model for the merchant and those affiliates who were bringing in quality traffics often have their commissions stolen by this tactic.
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    Affiliate Manager MINDsprinter's Avatar
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    Sneaky. But that can't work if everyone is blocking those pop-ups...so...

    I guess these people are trying to get lucky and catch someone without a blocker.
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    2005 Linkshare Golden Link Award Winner  ecomcity's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINDsprinter
    Sneaky. But that can't work if everyone is blocking those pop-ups...so...

    I guess these people are trying to get lucky and catch someone without a blocker.
    Get real and educated how BHO's work to set forced cookie. No popup blocker stops them from activating from URL triggers because the popup comes from your hijacked computer's hard drive.... jeeze
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    Affiliate Manager MINDsprinter's Avatar
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    Ah...spyware and such...I haven't had to deal with that stuff for a while
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    Outsourced Program Manager Angel Djambazov's Avatar
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    Although Mike ( ) is right that most popups are spyware based (TopMoxie, 180, etc), there are sites who use traditional popups to set a forced cookie and steal commissions. The coupon sites I referenced earlier in the thread where that type just trolling for commissions that weren't theirs.
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