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    CJSucks.com Owned by Linkshare
    I'm very pissed off at CJ right now, so I checked on getting CJSucks.com and noticed it's owned by Linkshare! Anyone find this odd?

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    Hmm... that is interesting...
    Just out of curiosity I am going to check this out...

    I do not think Linkshare would do such a thing, but I could be wrong.

    Sometime WHOIS information can be deceiving because some registrar
    do not check the validity of the company name, etc... so becareful before
    making claims.

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    Good disguise but no way....
    CJSucks.com is not owned by Linkshare (in my opinion)... just look at the facts below (examine the WHOIS info I provide below).

    1. Linkshare have their own name servers.
    2. Linkshare does not register using GoDaddy.


    This is the WHOIS for CJSucks.com (I believe this is pretending to be LS):
    Registrant:
    LinkShare Corporation
    215 Park Avenue South
    8th Floor
    New York, New York 10003
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: CJSUCKS.COM
    Created on: 03-Jun-99
    Expires on: 03-Jun-07
    Last Updated on: 20-Jan-06

    Administrative Contact:
    Meng, Horace
    LinkShare Corporation
    215 Park Avenue South
    8th Floor
    New York, New York 10003
    United States
    6466546000 Fax -- 6466020160

    Technical Contact:
    Meng, Horace
    LinkShare Corporation
    215 Park Avenue South
    8th Floor
    New York, New York 10003
    United States
    6466546000 Fax -- 6466020160

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NSX.NTX.NET
    NSC.NTX.NET

    The real Linkshare.com WHOIS:
    Registrant:
    LinkShare Corp.
    215 Park Ave. South
    New York, NY 10003
    US

    Domain Name: LINKSHARE.COM

    Administrative Contact:
    LinkShare, Hostmaster
    LinkShare Corporation
    215 Park Ave South
    8th Floor
    NEW YORK, NY 10003
    US
    999 999 9999 fax: 999 999 9999

    Technical Contact:
    LinkShare Corp.
    215 PARK AVE S
    NEW YORK, NY 10003-1603
    US
    (212) 532-6410 fax: (212) 679-4484

    Record expires on 03-Jan-2008.
    Record created on 02-Jan-1998.

    Domain servers in listed order:

    NS6.LINKSYNERGY.COM 216.35.71.70
    NS8.LINKSYNERGY.COM 63.123.248.6
    NS7.LINKSYNERGY.COM 216.35.71.110
    If Horace Meng is an employee of Linkshare... I would hope he knows what he is doing playing with these politics.

    Horace Meng or whoever did this probably was another disgruntled affiliate like yourself.

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    No, Horace Meng is at Linkshare

    http://www.linkshare.com/about/bio-meng.shtml

    Still dont know if he did this or not? Looks Like he might have started at Linkshare in 99, though

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    Yes, that's the reason why...

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    I see befree and a few other registered trademarks sucks on this same ip, shared with about 5,000 domains.

    Don't think it's LS since a few of the other sucks are not related to the affiliate marketing industry.

    The troubling thing is the IP belongs to Savvis and is located in la, which puts it in the same network as CJ. Don't think CJ would be happy with this, independent of the service mark issue.

    Tuan

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    Quote Originally Posted by azmojo
    Yes, that's the reason why...
    So why would you lie here? Why would you make such a libelous post? Why make linkshare the patsy? You should be banned.

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    Banning is a good idea but I also think this thread should be moved to the mod's forum so it won't be indexed by the SEs. This could be very embarassing for ABW if it was indexed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chetf
    So why would you lie here? Why would you make such a libelous post? Why make linkshare the patsy? You should be banned.
    Unless I'm missing something here, I don't think azmojo was being deceitful in his/her post. He/She was obviously upset by being kicked out by CJ, hence was probably thinking about building another xyzsucks website. The WHOIS info does lead people to believe the domain is owned by LinkShare.

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    Thanks, that's exactly it. I did not do the research to see if this was legitimate. I figured the WHOIS information was accurate and didn't bother to look further. I thought it was interesting and worth sharing, that's all.

    I was going to register the name, but someone beat me to it. I might grab the .net. We'll see.

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    Actually I remember another thread (when we were all trying to get LMI banned a few weeks ago) in wich CJSUCKS.com was mentioned as being owned by LS. Let me see if I can find it.... BRB

    Ok here it is ... http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread...ht=cjsucks.com this thread was started in June and I don't see anyone claiming someone is lying on that thread.
    :gnome: [URL]www.gethsemenerose.com[/URL] :gnome: As for me and my SITE we shall serve the LORD!

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    It's obvious that Linkshare would not buy the domain cjsucks.com. Even Steve Messer wasn't that clueless.

    Obviously it's a spoofed address. So why post the WHOIS info? Gee, I dunno...maybe somebody wants to stir the pot, make a little trouble. It's so...yawn...junior high school.

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    affiliate network sucks dot com debate
    When i used to work for an seo agency. We used to help clients push down negative rankings like your domain sucks dot com with building i love your domain dot com websites.

    Andrew, good whois research to figure out the connection

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    I was going to post one thing until I followed Billy Kay's link. Yeah, that changes things.

    Anyway, azmojo, my suggestion from the peanut gallery is to have your domains hosted on an adult friendly host and if kept legal go that direction with parody.

    As far as cj. I am not a fan of them either. But you didn't exactly do right. :-)

    And Rhea, I liked the movie Porkies. I don't care how Junior High. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Kay
    yes, is coincidence.

    This guy is stupid and deserved the ban in my opinion.

    You should not promote someone by telling bad things about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MicroMag
    yes, is coincidence.

    This guy is stupid and deserved the ban in my opinion.

    You should not promote someone by telling bad things about him.

    I don't think he deserved the ban. I think instead they should have blocked his PID.

    Sorry. I could not resist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthepond
    I don't think he deserved the ban. I think instead they should have blocked his PID.

    Sorry. I could not resist.
    LOL,

    if someone don't understand onthepond's comments over my post, read this ;-)

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    Interesting.

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    In the end it's Linkshare who gets the teal-hued end of the stick, and not CJ - as it really does make it appear that LS owns the domain - curious what they had to say about the issue as they must be aware of it by now.

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    Found Horace and he (at least as of a few years ago) was with LS and I don't think he's anyway associated with this.

    The pattern is to permutate an employee's name and give the reg a general address, starting from 1999 for this operation.

    Perhaps the thread title should (to be fair to LS) have a "?" appended.

    Tuan

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