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    ABW Founder Haiko de Poel, Jr.'s Avatar
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    All,

    It, sadly, has come to my attention that a member has been blatantly been copying sites. The Extra Kick in the butt about this is that the person who did the coping was helped by so many members here. The proof of the copying is quite solid but I will allow the member to explain their actions and present their side of the story, the member has 24 hours for such, PM me or email me.

    Disgusted,

    Haiko

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    Who is s/he?

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    Depends on what your new name is, Pranav...

    [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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    Sure there's only one who fits that description?

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    Who?

    Gosh - Again? Who's it this time? Who's been helping?
    Is this sadly turning into a discussion forum where it's hard to trust another member ?

    From my experience, this is paradise...You learn and you earn...

    The fact of yet another member doing it is disturbing but many others helping him/her?

    Waiting for this to unfold [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

    Regards
    Amit

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    Name names Haiko. None of us want to give this person any more help.

    [ 07-26-2002: Message edited by: citizen powers ]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by citizen powers:
    Name names Haiko. None of us want to give this person any more help.

    [ 07-26-2002: Message edited by: citizen powers ]
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    What? what???? what's wrong @citizen powers... :confused:

    Regards
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    [ 07-26-2002: Message edited by: ToolsToUse.com ]

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    Domain Addict / Formerly known as elbowcreek Thomas A. Rice's Avatar
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    I'd agree as well, if you have seen identical sites out there, let us know about it!

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    This is getting out of hand. I always thought folks like leader were a little over defensive. Boy was I ever wrong!

    How can we have a community designed to help others when we keep getting stabbed in the back? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

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    OK, lets take a vote. Anyone in favor of continuing to help this thief?

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    I say ... expose them right away ...

    It will deter future offences from fear of embarrasment.

    Then ban them. What kind of explanation is exceptable?

    Dave

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    I agree Dave. Its disturbing enough to have someone steal someone else's site. But to actually ask for help really takes the cake. I would like to know who this person is. But to be fair, he/she should have the 24 hours the Haiko allowed. After that, please let us know.

    I would also like to know the details of what happened. Not to be dramatic but we are all victims here and need to know how we were taken advantage of.

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    Austin powers,

    My vote - Yes we should continue to help him.
    Why? Because he needs the help. The guy must be really frustrated just like I was a year back. He must not be making any money and insted of emulating successful people, he chose the easier way to what he thought could lead him to success - copy the sites of successful people. I'm sure he was not arround during what happened when I copied Leader's site and doesn't know what I suffered, and still suffer because of that.

    Mr. Copier,

    If you are reading this, I was tortured, by ABW members (that was for a very legit. reason, nothing against ABW members) People not only stopped helping me, they simply boycotted me. I was accused of so much stuff.
    Most of my merchants terminated me as their affiliate.
    I never thought that mere copying a site could lead to such harsh results.

    Even now, People Like Icicle, etc. simply love to humiliate me because of the mistake I did, and beleve me IT HURTS, Right on the heart.

    So, just stop copying, keep learning and I am sure that very soon, u too will start making 1000s of $s from affiliate marketing - That's My guarantee.

    Regards,
    Pranav.

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    Oh, Pranav, your vote doesnt count.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Oh, Pranav, your vote doesnt count.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Copier,
    This is what I was trying to tell you.

    They'll do this to you.If you where there when all this happened to me, u'd have never done this.

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    Pranav,

    Let's continue to help. HELL NO. There is absolutely NO REASON that someone should blatantly copy someone's site. I live for the day when there is a power outage in your area and your connection is reset so that we can say goodbye to you. Ever notice that the chat room clears out or shuts up when you come into the room. I am not trying to be mean but that is how I feel. Pranav, you have demonstrated that you cannot be trusted with information or a url.

    This has become a large enough problem that it is time we send the offenders packing with a large object hanging from an orifice. Say size 10.

    Mike

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    ABW Founder Haiko de Poel, Jr.'s Avatar
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    Worse will be done Pranav!

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    Haiko,
    Please name names. I know you are giving this person a chance, but there comes a time when enough is enough. If ABW were compared to 'the real world' I think site copying would be a felony, right up there with bank robbery. It is sad that this continues, even after we have seen what happened to Pranav. It is even sadder that it happens because I know if I needed to design a page and wasn't sure how to set it up, I could just ask, and there would be plenty of assistance with it. There is no reason to stab people in the back when there is plenty of assistance needed..kind of like robbing the 7-11 even though your neighbors are helping them.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Worse will be done Pranav! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Okay, This scares me -- To Whom?

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    Copier,

    read carefully what evil and everyone else are saying to pranav -- You'll never do this again.

    If you were there during the pranav episode, You are a TOTAL idiot, and even more than that.

    They say that even you don't have to prove nothing to others, but when some one told me that an ethical, mature business person will never do what u did, I doubted myself weather I am an ethical, mature businessperson?. I couldn't even prove to myself!!!

    Anyway,
    the choice is yours...

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    Pranav,

    You are the last person who should be commenting on this. I am not denying your right to speak but I am becoming more and more angry with every additional post that you make. If you want to rehab site copiers then start a support group but not here where the majority of members are working to make a living honestly.

    Mike :mad:

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    Not another one<IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon8.gif> <IMG src=http://www.abestweb.com/ubb/icons/icon29.gif> Is 24 hours up yet?
    Who is it Haiko?

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    Haiko,

    Please release the name. The Pranaver may have 24 hours to respond but how much more help or site will he/she/it come across in that time to copy. Bring it out in the open and let's lay the smackdown to their candy ass!

    Mike

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    My Dear Doctor,

    That Majority of members includes me. I make an affiliate marketing based income with my own work too and won't want someone to just come and copy all that has taken me hours of no-sleeping and months of learning.

    That is why mI posted - to try to stop all this.

    I never belived that anyone can make such a mistake after what happened to pranav.

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    Pranav,

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>That Majority of members includes me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    The majority of members are not repeat offenders at copying sites. Need I say more?

    Mike

    [ 07-26-2002: Message edited by: Dr. Evil ]

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    Evil,

    I am not a Repeat offender.

    AND,

    Today, I am an honest affiliate marketing making a ton out of affiliate marketing from what I did on my own

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