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    ABW Ambassador MoneyBusiness's Avatar
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    Buying a link for a short period of time..or..
    Anybody's advice/opinion here would be appreciated. I know that building true links with respected sites is the way to go, but if I wanted to buy a link from a respectable site, would it have to be a long term deal, or could there be any positives from purchasing a backlink for, say, a month or two?

    Also, instead of buying these links, do you think the money might be better invested in trying to get into the big directories (i.e., yahoo, etc)?

    Thanks

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    the rule of thumb that is expressed most here is to build a site that is extremely user-friendly.

    sure, you can buy a link or two but you'll have to have them pointing in for probably several months to guarantee notice by a SE. This also pre-supposes that what may have held true two years ago or more still does.

    then you have to keep high-PR links aiming in for a longer period of time anyway, and if they are not from a site similar in content to yours you may have wasted some money.

    if you can build a site that has enough useful content and/or authority on a subject other webmasters may link to your site anyway. this may be the preferable course.

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    Thanks. I'd rather go with the natural course here, but it's slowww going right now. I've yet to come up with any meaningful linking campaign, and so am looking at other options to increase popularity.

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    It definitely depends on the situation and your goal.

    could there be any positives from purchasing a backlink for, say, a month or two?
    Buying a high PR backlink (ie PR7) for a month would be a quick way to get a large site indexed by the engines. However, as far as SERPs goes, it would only give you a temporary boost.


    Also, instead of buying these links, do you think the money might be better invested in trying to get into the big directories (i.e., yahoo, etc)?
    I'd say the money would be better invested in developing better content/tools/resources for your target visitors. If you build something useful, the links will naturally occur for free. IMO the Yahoo Dir is a waste of money, but if you find some decent PR niche and SEO friendly directories, those are a good place to spend a little money.

    Hope this helps!

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    "but if you find some decent PR niche and SEO friendly directories, those are a good place to spend a little money."

    I was actually looking into those this morning for a new site.

    Some directories that you can pay to get into that will also give you some SEO benefit.

    Places I checked out like:

    http://www.goguides.org/

    http://www.skaffe.com/

    http://www.joeant.com/

    http://www.jayde.com/

    http://botw.org/

    lot more out there. Trying to figure out which ones are the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustNo1
    "but if you find some decent PR niche and SEO friendly directories, those are a good place to spend a little money."

    I was actually looking into those this morning for a new site.

    Some directories that you can pay to get into that will also give you some SEO benefit.

    Places I checked out like:

    http://www.goguides.org/

    http://www.skaffe.com/

    http://www.joeant.com/

    http://www.jayde.com/

    http://botw.org/

    lot more out there. Trying to figure out which ones are the best.
    Google "[your keyword/topic] directory" and find ones that the page your link would be on is atleast a PR3+ and has less than 30 or so other outbound links on it. Submission fees should range from $5-$40.

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    Great. Thanks for the links and advice!

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    Like some others have said, write content, specifically linkbait type things. Take a look at what gets traffic from delicious or digg and write or create something to get there. High quality links and lots of traffic!

    For example, digg users love top 10 lists, collections of videos (I saw a collection from youtube of the funniest jim carrey moments), things like that. If you check out digg for a couple days you'll get the idea...
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    That's really 2 different issues.

    Yes, make a site that people will want to link to naturally. Those are the best links.

    But when first starting out, getting links is what a lot of sites have to do. Some of the first links can be the toughest. So MoneyBusiness was looking for an option in getting links. Paying for them in directories is one of them. Some directories are better than others. Some are just for traffic, others may be more for SEO etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustNo1
    "but if you find some decent PR niche and SEO friendly directories, those are a good place to spend a little money."

    I was actually looking into those this morning for a new site.

    Some directories that you can pay to get into that will also give you some SEO benefit.

    Places I checked out like:

    http://www.goguides.org/

    http://www.skaffe.com/

    http://www.joeant.com/

    http://www.jayde.com/

    http://botw.org/

    lot more out there. Trying to figure out which ones are the best.
    If you decide to invest some money with one, how about letting poor ole' MB know..! I'll do likewise if I happen on something good.

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    I think after the holidays, I'll have more time to research all the ones available, read around to check other people's experiences with them, try a few out myself.

    This is something I bookmarked awhile back, they have some SEO friendly directories, you can dl the list.

    http://info.vilesilencer.com/main.ph...endly-list.php

    Most are probably garbage but there should be a few good ones in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolareMedia
    Buying a high PR backlink (ie PR7) for a month would be a quick way to get a large site indexed by the engines.
    It seems to me that it would be very easy for Google to identify something like this as a paid advertisement and discount or penalize it. Especially if the site meets all of these criteria:

    1) There are only a few sites that links to it.
    2) The links are all high PR links.
    3) Some sites that link to it do so from every page of the site with the same anchor text.
    4) The site is new.
    5) The site has a lot of interlinked pages.
    6) There are no deep links.
    7) Those sites linking to it link to other sites that fit the same criteria.

    That kind of technique worked good four years ago, but I think you wouldn't have much of a chance of getting it to work today.
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    Yes, make a site that people will want to link to naturally. Those are the best links.
    Exactly.

    When you buy links, the first consideration should be whether LINK NOW = TRAFFIC NOW.

    If your site does not or will not attract natural inbound links, you'll be chasing your own tail forever buying links to appease notions of popularity. Buy traffic, not links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelColey
    It seems to me that it would be very easy for Google to identify something like this as a paid advertisement and discount or penalize it. Especially if the site meets all of these criteria:

    1) There are only a few sites that links to it.
    2) The links are all high PR links.
    3) Some sites that link to it do so from every page of the site with the same anchor text.
    4) The site is new.
    5) The site has a lot of interlinked pages.
    6) There are no deep links.
    7) Those sites linking to it link to other sites that fit the same criteria.

    That kind of technique worked good four years ago, but I think you wouldn't have much of a chance of getting it to work today.
    Still works like a champ! Also, you can never be penalized for an inbound link. However, MichaelColey has an excelent point about the sitewide links. Those are sure to be discounted, but getting 1 PR7 link to your site will get the spiders there within hours.

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