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    I believe the main purpose of joining a forum is to contribute. It seems there are a lot of lurkers at ABW, leeching all the help they can get without giving anything back in return. You should create a new rule which means all members should post a minimum numbers of posts per month. Communities should share after all.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JJJay:
    I believe the main purpose of joining a forum is to contribute. It seems there are a lot of lurkers at ABW, leeching all the help they can get without giving anything back in return. You should create a new rule which means all members should post a minimum numbers of posts per month. Communities should share after all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    IMO, I would give them up to one month to "get comfortable" after that a minimum of certain posts....totally agree...

    nothing like being in a club with 3,000 strangers....

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    The problem with that is, you'll get 10,000 posts like this:


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    bump
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    and this :

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    Bump

    Not only that but someone goes on vacation for a month (common amongst affiliate marketers) they come back and they've been removed.

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    . taken

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    ABW Ambassador JJJay's Avatar
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    When I say lurker, I mean someone who hasn't posted at all but still visits ABW everyday or second day or third day.... Haiko can see from the weblog who visits and how often they visit. Anyway the final decision is his, mine is only a suggestion.

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    I disagree (but not with eaglefire, LOL - that is exactly what would happen). Many members may well be just new at affiliate marketing, and are here to learn. In time, they will be contributors.

    Some members might feel a bit intimidated - afraid they might give a wrong or misleading answer to someone, so they do not post. Some members can spot a question that they *know* another member will jump on and do a better job of answering, so they do not post.

    By nature, I am not a chatty person, and I usually don't make a post unless I can truly be of some help, or if I see no one has responded to a question. I do spend alot of time here, if only to do a quick read and catch up on current issues (and lately that is getting harder and harder to do with so many posts).

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    I disagree too. It's easy for any one of us to sit here and say, "This should be this way." But, we are not the ones who have to actually do the work to make it so.

    I'm sure Haiko has enough on his plate. Adding the extra burden of keeping track of which of almost 5,000 members have posted or not posted in a given period of time is asking a lot.

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    It's just fine the way it is. If it ain't broke don't fix it. It has been recently that a number of people who have lurked here are now posting, stripping their membership might have prevented that

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    I have to say I disagree. Lurkers shouldn't be punished for lurking. Some people are afraid to post, or simply are just shy.

    As long as they aren't bothering anyone, leave them be. They will eventually come out of their shell, maybe.

    Now, the antagonists and trolls, give them the boot!

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    Some of us just don't have anything usefull to say.

    ummmm
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    bye

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I believe the main purpose of joining a forum is to contribute. It seems there are a lot of lurkers at ABW, leeching all the help they can get without giving anything back in return. You should create a new rule which means all members should post a minimum numbers of posts per month. Communities should share after all.
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    Posts: 69 | From: | Registered: Apr 2002<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Jay, only 69 contributed posts since April?
    Where have you been hiding?

    You just might end up on your own hit list~!
    Sure you don't want to recant your statement?

    And what is wrong with not posting? They could be contributing in more ways than you know. How many banners have you clicked since you've been here? And how many sites have you visited due to the contributors, both good and bad?

    Curiosity'll drive ya bughouse~! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    Glad to see you out of your closet Jay. INVITE the others, DON'T slam the door on 'em.

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    I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.
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    It looks like the bloodthirsty mob hunger for another witch hunt. Is that the future of ABW? The sad thing is, nobody thought it a facist ideal. It is simply regarded as impractical.

    Who will be next?
    # Anybody that doesnt make the minimum cheque each month?

    # Anybody that doesnt have blonde hair, blue eyes?

    Theres one in the spotlight, he dont look right to me, get him up against the wall.

    I'll sign off now and post much less frequently lest I am banned for holding a view that differs from popular opinion.

    BTW: J, you only have 13 posts in your profile. Thanks for all of the contribution [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AffiliateMakeover.com:
    I have to say I disagree. Lurkers shouldn't be punished for lurking. Some people are afraid to post, or simply are just shy.

    As long as they aren't bothering anyone, leave them be. They will eventually come out of their shell, maybe.

    Now, the antagonists and trolls, give them the boot!
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    Exactly!

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    Well, as a former "lurker" on this board, all I can say is this environment is VERY intimidating at first to someone who is trying to figure out what affiliate marketing is all about.

    I joined in November, but have rarely posted until lately, simply because that time period allowed me to learn the affiliate lingo and get my feet wet.

    Then, when I finally felt like I was comfortable enough to contribute, and be an active member, someone makes a statement that everyone is just posting to get the minimum number of posts to be in the Private Affiliate Forum.

    Maybe there are 3,000 people lurking on the board waiting to rip successful sites from other members as soon as they can identify them. I don't know one way or the other.

    But I suspect that the majority are just trying to absorb everything. It's a lot to absorb.

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    It seems like I was lurking on this board forever! First just visiting, then I actually joined, and for a long time I just read posts because as a newbie to the affiliate game, I certainly had nothing to say! Any posts I made were questions I hadn't yet seen answered. A few months down the road now I'm still a newbie, tho' a bit more vocal, and I still don't have much to give in the way of advice (although I do offer what I can). I'd rather see the people who know what they're talking about post messages, and not just see people spouting off useless drivel just to make a quota. Just IMO.

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    Another reason for "lurking" that I know applies to me is to see if the site would be appropriate. For example, I used to be a frequent visitor to another board but never posted. The board in question has a lot of good, informative posts. It also has a site review forum like the one here at ABestWeb, but they don't allow reviews of affiliate web sites. If their refusal to allow site reviews of affiliate marketing sites is an indication of how they feel about affiliate marketing in general, then their forum is probably not the best fit for an affiliate marketer. Besides, this board seems more like home to me anyway.

    Glad I "lurked" for a while first.

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    [ 08-02-2002: Message edited by: gregdi ]

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Janiss:
    Any posts I made were questions I hadn't yet seen answered.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Sometimes people can learn a lot from a question - including people who (thought) they had all the answers.

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    I'm going to stick up for lurkers.. they're the ones who get the value from the board, who click on the advertising links, who follow our recommendations and have made ABW the 6,000th most popular place on the web. Lurkers have always been around any kind of discussion group.. this has been the case ever since Usenet news groups appeared 20-or-so years ago.

    There's a private forum for active posters, but everything else we discuss is common knowledge.

    The comment about it being intimidating is right.. a lot of people won't post until they have something to add to the debate, but ABW is here to enable people to LEARN.

    There *is* a point that maybe we could have some more newbie-friendly forums. The Site Review is quite a good one as it's often the first place for people to come. But maybe even give a board for newbies to hang around in themselves and not feel intimidated.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dynamoo:
    There *is* a point that maybe we could have some more newbie-friendly forums. The Site Review is quite a good one as it's often the first place for people to come. But maybe even give a board for newbies to hang around in themselves and not feel intimidated.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    There's the Newbies Corner\Introduce Yourself - no reason serious threads couldn't develop there among the amateurs (not belittling, I don't aff so I'm not even at that level). Of course some people may think it's restricted to JUST introducing oneself and nothing else allowed. In that case, maybe a Where Do I Start forum would be called for (Or renaming it Introductions/Getting Started or something along those lines).

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    Haiko, as far as I am aware ABW has a member sign-up referral program, if lurkers are welcome how come you only pay out once a member makes 10 posts?

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    Let the lurkers ..lurk! If they read some of my "wakeup" posts they at least get alerted to the issues confronting this industry. Often I troll post just to get them to come out of hiding if I touch a nerve like a mad dentist probing rotten teeth.

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