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    I've been doing a bit of research into Google rankings and such, when I read a thread that stated:

    "...if your site is on a shared hosting, check to make sure your site hasn't been blacklisted by someone else penalized for spam..."

    I never gave this any thought whatsoever...but can someone else's site, on a shared server, cause other sites (on that same server) to get penalized in G's search rankings?

    It would make sense that this does happen - anyone have any opinions or experience with this, and would be willing to share?

    If that's so, then it's all the more reason to get the hell off of that type of hosting...
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    Ok, cool - a brief update: Supposedly, Bluehost offers customers the option to purchase dedicated IPs for their account (something like $30 per year). Didn't know you could purchase IPs this way. May do that until I can get everything moved over to a different type of server.
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    I want to say that this is a case of getting what you pay for. If you have a throwaway domain you might not care so much about the history or status of the IP it lives on. If you have a domain that's valuable to you and that you intend to keep forever, then it makes sense to go with a host that's pricey but on the ball.

    How would one go about finding out the history of an IP before being assigned to it? Not that I'm planning on moving my sites, I'm just curious.

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    As you found out, as long as you have your own IP you should be fine...most shared hosting this is standard...
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    The best thing to do is associate with an ISP who does not allow adult content, gambling, spam, <usual list> at all. One that has been around for a long time with the same policies. (Use the wayback machine)

    If you are on a shared host and they throw an adult site on your same server, you share an ip. You can be blocked. Same thing if a spammer ends up there.

    If you purchase an IP from an ISP, how can you be sure the last person who had that IP wasn't hosting a porno site on it? You should check the one they are going to assign you and see if it's blacklisted first.

    The potential is there for that ip to be blocked already. There are so many net nanny applications, blacklists, etc.

    I do my dev work on super cheapie shared hosting. When I find ideas that work, I move them over to my dedicated servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea
    How would one go about finding out the history of an IP before being assigned to it? Not that I'm planning on moving my sites, I'm just curious.
    That's a good question (like the last poster mentioned as well). If I come across a tool for that, I'll share it here. I'm going to call them today about accquiring a dedicated IP, and will also ask them whehter they know anything about the new IPs history, or whether they have a way to check it.

    edit: I was able to check whether my current IP had been blacklisted for email spam at: http://www.moensted.dk/spam/ (whatever help that may provide)

    edit: Also, I did check out who was hosted on my current shared servers before this post - I didn't see anything that stood out, but I didn't dig deep either. The tool I used (if anyone is interested) is at: http://tomdns.net/get_hostonip.php
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    I never gave this any thought whatsoever...but can someone else's site, on a shared server, cause other sites (on that same server) to get penalized in G's search rankings?
    I'll share it here. I'm going to call them today about accquiring a dedicated IP
    Did you come to a firm opinion on your original question or are you thinking of moving "just in case"?

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    I did some more researching (primarily on webmasterworld.com) in regards to that first question, and it seems that it can indeed be a problem...although there were no die-hard facts/sources to back it up.

    Accquring a dedicated IP should only cost me about $30 for a full year (according to what I read on the bluehost forum). That really closed the deal - it's cheap, and I should be able to get one into place with minimal difficulty. That's at least, for the time being, the current plan until I get moved over to a more "serious" server setup. Will find out more when I speak to a rep/tech support.
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    Interesting thread. Maybe we should start a new one listing all of the tools available for researching banned IP's, domains, and ISP's with problems.

    One recent <unnamed> large hosting company had all mail servers blocked on http://spamhaus.org. Needless to say the customers were't happy about it.

    I'm trying to think of how to compile a list of useful sites that don't have ads on there so it doesn't look like posting affiliate links. Most of the research sites I use have ads. But there are a few places, like spamhaus, that don't.

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    Good idea. I would just contact the mod with a list prior to posting - to avoid surprises...but I'm sure most of them will pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyBusiness
    Good idea. I would just contact the mod with a list prior to posting - to avoid surprises...but I'm sure most of them will pass.
    I can't do that, I'm still new here. It would have to be someone who could edit posts long after they were posted. That way they could update the main post as people added to the list.

    It would be a nice resource. I've read articles where people have bought domain names only to find out that the name was blacklisted. I wonder how many people realize that some of the sites they own are being blocked because they are on a shared server with a porn or <hate, etc. standard list>
    site. There is no way [that I know of] to measure traffic you don't get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyBusiness
    Accquring a dedicated IP should only cost me about $30 for a full year (according to what I read on the bluehost forum). That really closed the deal - it's cheap, and I should be able to get one into place with minimal difficulty.
    Actually, that sounds a bit high to me. Usually IPs seem to go for about $1-1.50 a month or so. Still, if you're otherwise happy with your host, that's not a reason to switch.

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