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    Question Anyone Been to Venice?
    Anyone around ABW has been to Venice?

    What is the best month to go? Is early March too cold? I'm hearing it's good, because it is not crowded... But if anyone has personal experiences to share (not only on the best time to go, but also on the best things to do while there), I would highly appreciate them.

    Many thanks in advance,

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    I've been there a few times. Don't forget to ask your wife to come with you. It's the perfect place to visit for Valentine's day.
    Venice can be cold in Winter and hot in Summer but it's not the main problem. Before making your reservation check if the Piazza San Marco will be under water or not.
    There's no season anymore. March could be perfect. I was there in April last year and I had a great time. Avoid July and August, too hot and too crowded.

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    Venice is awesome Geno! You're gonna love it.

    Harry's Bar in the main piazza is the "must visit" hot spot. Venice is like being in a dream - unreal surroundings and loads of history. Very vibey place, too, if you're prone to vibes.

    It does smell pretty nasty - the water is all messed up there.

    May and September are the very best months to visit Italy. Not too hot, not cold. Don't go in August - everything is closed and all service personnel are gone for "Feraugusto," the national month to slack off. Italians take their vacation time seriously.
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    Thank you, Zeus! (It is planned a surprize for my wife)

    Thank you for your recommendations and sharing your experience. Much appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    Before making your reservation check if the Piazza San Marco will be under water or not.
    Any good website you can recommend on Venice up-to-dates?

    Geno

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    Rexanne,

    Thank you for taking part in the thread and sharing your thoughts. Who else could know Italy than an Italian, right?!

    I've never been myself. My wife had visited before, and she dreams of going back again...

    G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno Prussakov
    Thank you, Zeus! (It is planned a surprize for my wife)
    Thank you for your recommendations and sharing your experience. Much appreciated.
    Any good website you can recommend on Venice up-to-dates?
    Geno
    She will not be disappointed. It's a very romantic place. And you can go back many times, you'll find always something new to visit.
    Just one recommendation, check if your hotel will take care of your luggage. You don't want to hand carry them at your arrival. Venice is quite special. My favorite place to stay is still the Danielli. You have a vaporetto stop and anyway they have their own boat service.

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    Hi mate..
    Never been myself , but sounds great ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    My favorite place to stay is still the Danielli.
    Second that!
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    What about Bauer Hotel and Luna Hotel Baglioni? Any feedback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno Prussakov
    What about Bauer Hotel and Luna Hotel Baglioni? Any feedback?
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    They are well located, near San Marco square with an easy access by boat. They both look great. I'm always staying at the Danieli because I know the place and I can walk everywhere downtown (without getting lost)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    They are well located, near San Marco square with an easy access by boat. They both look great. I'm always staying at the Danieli because I know the place and I can walk everywhere downtown (without getting lost)
    Gotcha. I've looked through the pictures of the hotel and it does look wonderful. Thanks again for the recommendation, Zeus.

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    been there twice... it's absolutely marvelous.

    everyone's heard of the Guggenheim in New York. many have heard of the Guggenheim in Berlin and in Balboa. few have heard of the Guggenheim in Venice. they're all owned by the same foundation and this one's in the former home of Peggy Guggenheim. it's small, private, out of the way and often overlooked. but it's not to be missed. if you've never come breathing distance from Picasso's works or those Duchamp, Klee, Magritte, Kupka, Pollack, Dali or Brancusi, you're in for a treat. the only time i was there i was "assigned" (more on that later) a student guide and she spoke 7 languages, knew the local history of the museum very well, knew every piece in the museum including it's history, interpretation and the world history at the time of it's creation. she did confiscate my non-flash camera (the lighting's perfect for non-flash photography, if it were allowed), had security remove my film, returned my camera to me and then graciously gave me a tour after i got nabbed taking a picture in the wrong zone... almost got a picture of picasso's "on the beach" there. and don't miss the sculptures from giacometti and ernst. as crazy as it sounds, i've never met anyone else who's been to this museum, it's small and tucked away and while on all the tourist maps, it's hardly noticed.

    i had tried to snag a picture of picasso's "on the beach" which was painted the same year as his most widely accredited masterpiece, Guernica, which almost everyone studies in college. if you go Geno, you won't miss this Picasso, it's stunning. i like it better than Geurnica and i could almost touch her... this small museum has VERY short distances between viewer and painting, unlike most larger museums. say hello to her for me, i miss her... or maybe more accurately, I missed her... almost got to take her with me and my canon 35mm slr...

    now Geno, i must tell you, Peggy, like most collectors of that time (and today), was a huge fan of Kandinsky. he's Russian like you and is often credited with the birth and foundation modern abstract painting. he taught artists at the bauhaus before the war and is largely credited with not only the birth of modern abstracts, but through his teachings in the bauhaus, with directly influencing some of the worlds most famous painters in absractism and more. the freaking nazi's destroyed over 50 of his paintings during world war 2 because they feared him (and his work) as a rule breaker - the bauhaus movement and his refusal to follow convention in the previous schools of art (many of which were of germanic origin) made him someone the Nazi's despised and feared. Geno, now, that's quite a mind and a paint brush - one that invoked fear in Nazi germany's leaders! earlier he had left russia because the "Soviets officially forbid all forms of abstract art, judging them as harmful for socialist ideals." and i've got a super huge soft spot in my heart for those who break traditions because their intellect tells them there's a better, truer way. breaking tradition is almost always how intellectual interests advance humanity and it's understanding of itself.

    the fact that his art and mere thoughts about color and form instilled fear in the Nazi's is a true testament to his work.

    see more about him here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassily_Kandinsky
    http://www.rollins.edu/Foreign_Lang/Russian/kandin.html
    http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/kandinsky/
    http://www.auburn.edu/academic/liber...sky-volga.html
    http://www.abcgallery.com/K/kandinsky/kandinsky.html

    if the Nazi's had not confiscated and destroyed so many of his paintings, he'd be an even bigger name today than he is - and he's already a giant in the art world!

    to me, his works are a soulful, spiritual and are a meaningful reflection / inspection of life. they are dramatic and deeply intellectual. they represent some of the finest, most moving art pieces the world has ever seen.

    most abstract art bores me as the possible game of intellectually shorties disguised in something that's supposed to have hidden meaning, i often see it as artificial depth through silliness - an emporer's new clothes kind of thing. But Kandinsky's not like that - he is abstract, but his works can evoke feelings, cause sensations, trigger memories and flow through your mind exciting thoughts, new and old.

    and guess what... there's at least 3 Kandinsky's at the Guggenheim in Venice.

    as a Russian, you MUST visit this little museum Geno, it'd be a crime if you missed it.

    hey, more good news, there's also one Malevich there, I think he was from Kiev. my guide took me to see his painting because he's related to Kandinsky through birth region and school (both bauhaus in germany and an association before that back in Russia). i think Malevich wasn't necessarily a student of Kandinsky's and i believe that Malevich is somewhat older, but the influence of Kandinsky can be seen in Malevich's later works (as can Kandinsky's influences be seen throughout the art world).

    there may be other russian / russian-origin works there too, but i can remember the Kandinksky's as if I'm still standing in front of them now - and it's been 7 years since I was there.

    if you research him, notice how often the terms "new idea" or "redefine" or "different" come up... Kandinsky was an earth shaking influence on modern art Geno - Kandinsky's quality works rescued the entire abstractism movement from being dismissed as absurd.

    I hope to hear from you first hand, next time we meet, how it made you feel to stand inches from his works' greatness. As a Russian, I've got to imagine his work and it's influence on modern thought and art would be deeply meaningful to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuts
    as a Russian, you MUST visit this little museum Geno, it'd be a crime if you missed it.
    I certainly will, D.! Thank you for telling us all about it. Very much appreciated indeed. Kandinsky was also a Russian boy (born in Moscow, lived in Russia, Ukraine (which was USSR back then anyhow), Germany and France)...

    I am a big fan of Joseph Brodsky, a Leningrad-born poet, a Nobel Prize in Literature. He was deported from the USSR in 1972, became a U.S. citizen in 1980, but was burried at Isola di San Michele cemetery in Venice which he loved all his life (I guess, the fact that he was born and raised in the "Northern Venice", as we sometimes call Leningrad/St Petersburg, contributed to it).

    Now besides Brodky's grave, I will make sure I visit the Guggenheim Peggy Collection too (thanks to you Donuts!)

    Geno

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    Wow Donuts. You're a veritable well of "stuff." Didn't realize you were such an intellectual. LOL - Seriously, great post.

    I love what I've just seen online of Kadinsky's work. Everything you said is right on. Thanks for the education and links!

    Now I want to go back to Venice. Been missing Italy big time the past several years.

    Best make some serious money so I can afford a trip and do it right. Geno, take lots of pictures!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexanne
    Best make some serious money so I can afford a trip and do it right. Geno, take lots of pictures!
    Ok.

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    I've been once. Well, I was only age 7 at the time. All I remember was the gondola rides. I'm sure it is thrilling as an adult, but as a child it was out of this world! Can't wait to go back!
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    Flights booked! EasyJet rocks!! Only around $530.00 (274.95) for 3 roundtrip tickets from London.

    Anyone else has hotel recommendations?

    Geno

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    Geno,

    I was living in London last year and decided that it was about time to get away from the grey weather of the UK. My Wife and I booked a trip to Italy and toured from Rome all the way to Venice. We actually stayed on the main land rather than in the more expensive hotels right in Venice. Transportation there is really easy with water taxi's and ferries very frequently traveling back and forth. A couple of must dos:

    A gondola Ride (try to rent it for just you and your wife...a little less romantic with a group of tourists)
    San Marcos Square at night (Not so crowded and beautiful)
    The Murano Glass factory (you don't need to travel to the other island...they have a small version right there in the city)

    We went in April...it was perfect weather.

    Enjoy!

    Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno Prussakov
    Flights booked! EasyJet rocks!! Only around $530.00 (274.95) for 3 roundtrip tickets from London.

    Anyone else has hotel recommendations?

    Geno
    great price mate !!
    we would love one of the low cost airlines here.
    easy jet , ryan air , etc are great..
    have a good time .
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    Geno,

    I am jealous. How lucky you are! Italy is my favorite place on earth. You will love Venice.

    The last time we went (2000), we stayed at http://www.hotelgiglio.com/en/index.htm, which was very nice. Hotel Danielli is one of my dream hotels, so if I could swing it I would stay there in a heartbeat.

    I wish that we had been able to see the Peggy Guggenheim museum. It was closed when we tried to go.

    The old Jewish ghetto is interesting to see. It is kind of off the beaten path. You can arrange for a tour guide.

    The little island of Burano is worth a trip. All the lace is actually not so interesting, but the island itself is very charming with its brightly painted houses.

    I would be a total coffee addict if I lived in Italy. I love stopping at those little coffee bars throughout the day. I will never understand how those little old men chug down those shots of espresso like it is nothing.

    Anyway... have a great time.

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    We went in March and thought it was a beautiful time to go. The sun isn't hot enough to make the water/drains smell, and it was a little more quiet than the heaving Summer months.

    One of those places that lives up to it's great reputation.

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    Venice is definitely a city everyone should visit at least once. I do have one warning...don't go to Venice if you are traveling with a small child. We took our one year old son in his stroller and found ourselves carrying the stroller and son up and down countless mini-bridges over the canals! It was a great workout, but not something I would want to repeat.

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    On Zeus' and Rexanne's recommendations I have just booked a beautiful triple (both of my princesses are going) lagoon view room at the Danieli.

    Flying out on 8 March (to be there until 12 March). Can't wait!!


    Affiliate Dinner, Venice anyone?!


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    Lucky guy. It's a nice hotel, Geno, great service and well located at walking distance from the main places to see.
    It's also the favorite hotel of James Bond. Have you seen the last one? Casino Royale.
    I'll be in Arizona during that period then in Paris beginning of April heading to the south of France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    Lucky guy. It's a nice hotel, Geno, great service and well located at walking distance from the main places to see.
    It's also the favorite hotel of James Bond. Have you seen the last one? Casino Royale.
    No, I haven't actually seen that one yet... Now I have a good reason to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    I'll be in Arizona during that period then in Paris beginning of April heading to the south of France.
    I'll hope to be in the south of France (Monaco and Nice) some time this Spring too. It'd be nice if our paths cross...

    Geno

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