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    Google Apps for Your Domain - Experiences?
    Google's been sending me emails asking me to join this "Google Apps for Your Domain" program. Apparently they'll offer my visitors chat, gmail, calendars, etc but I'm not sure how it all works. Anybody tried this?

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    I like google apps, been using it for over two months now, mainly for corporate email (mystaff@mycompany.com), calendar and chat.

    It's free right now because it's in beta, but they'll start charging for it pretty soon. although you can get the apps free for life if you join them during beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffiliateBuddha
    I like google apps, been using it for over two months now, mainly for corporate email (mystaff@mycompany.com), calendar and chat.

    It's free right now because it's in beta, but they'll start charging for it pretty soon. although you can get the apps free for life if you join them during beta.
    Interesting. Now does this mean you'll be able to create free accounts for life if you're part of the beta. Or do you only get the accounts that were created before they instigate the charge? For example I sign up and create an account for myself@mydomain but they start charging and I want to create an account for a member at member@mydomain.com. Will I need to pay for that member since their account was created after they started charging?

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    they'd charge per domain I suppose, so whatever domains you register with them during beta get google apps for free. You can only create 100 emails per domain as of now, not sure of that number will change post-beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffiliateBuddha
    they'd charge per domain I suppose, so whatever domains you register with them during beta get google apps for free. You can only create 100 emails per domain as of now, not sure of that number will change post-beta.
    Wow, only 100. Guess I can't offer this to all of my registered users. Seems like it's more for the management. Anyway, I took a look at your blog and have it bookmarked. Good stuff.

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    http://mail.google.com/hosted/hardwaregeeks.com is mine

    you are limited to 25 email addresses unlimited alliases before you got to pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwareGeek
    http://mail.google.com/hosted/hardwaregeeks.com is mine

    you are limited to 25 email addresses unlimited alliases before you got to pay
    So basically they take over SMTP and POP services for your domain? Can you access your mail via a POP client?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snib
    So basically they take over SMTP and POP services for your domain? Can you access your mail via a POP client?

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    What's the point of having G do that? You can set up unlimited "@yourdomain.com" addresses on a server without them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    What's the point of having G do that? You can set up unlimited "@yourdomain.com" addresses on a server without them...
    Yeah, I'm happy hosting it all myself. Just trying to figure out if the pros outweigh the cons. Would definitely help in terms of email security. But it does come at a cost.

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    I'd do it just for the interface. By using Google Mail and Google Calendar I am alot more productive than with other email web clients. I actually stopped using Outlook to read email just because of the time it takes. The google email interface is fast and to the point. It is all I use now.
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    it gives you pop access and 2GB of storage per each account.

    If your host has an mail policy that limits the amount of relays then I'd go with Gmail or Microsoft live webmail. I actually like the MS version better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    What's the point of having G do that? You can set up unlimited "@yourdomain.com" addresses on a server without them
    Do you really want to grant johnny.porno.spammer@yourdomain.com email access that you could be liable for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwareGeek
    it gives you pop access and 2GB of storage per each account.

    If your host has an mail policy that limits the amount of relays then I'd go with Gmail or Microsoft live webmail. I actually like the MS version better.
    That's handy. Now when my server needs to send emails out to my users, will it go through Google's server? I'm not particularly clear on how exim and local sendmail routines work with the MX server.

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    If you were going to do that, I would just use microsoft access and mailmerge to create a mailing list. so that it would leave your computer via gmail using your domain to your users, never touches your server.
    MX records on your srver would have to be adjusted to googles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardwareGeek
    If you were going to do that, I would just use microsoft access and mailmerge to create a mailing list. so that it would leave your computer via gmail using your domain to your users, never touches your server.
    MX records on your srver would have to be adjusted to googles.
    These aren't mailing lists. This is for the forum and interactive features on the site. Emails are sent out regularly when people receive responses to their posts.

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    you can set your forums server to use SMTP and point to google.

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    Hi Scott,

    I've been on G4D for about a year now and it's been great. I do offer accounts to folks I know from the B&M world, but imo the spam risk is too high for me to make this available to the general Internet public.

    A few improvements over the last year:

    1) Although you can/should create a "root" account, the "abuse" and "postmaster" address can only be created via email lists. For example, once you create an abuse email list, you'll see that Google Support is automatically added to the list.

    2) You can setup your DNS and configure G (customize URL) to access your services from mail.example.com, instead of mail.google.com/hosted/example.com.

    3) You can add domain alias, to receive/send out mail as additional domains.

    If you're going to access via pop, check to see if your app/device can override the standard pop/smtp ports w/ G's (995/465).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snib
    Google's been sending me emails asking me to join this "Google Apps for Your Domain" program. Apparently they'll offer my visitors chat, gmail, calendars, etc but I'm not sure how it all works. Anybody tried this?

    - Scott

    I dont think google apps in intended for your visitors. I thought it was intended more for those within your company. Sort of like a corporate intranet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sthbodyjewelry
    I dont think google apps in intended for your visitors. I thought it was intended more for those within your company. Sort of like a corporate intranet.
    Yeah, I've come to realize that.

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