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    Protect Yourself the Zango Way

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    I have to say I think Zango will be the shortest-lived of the parasites. They have attracted much attention and I think it will be them that is used as an example with the American public finally comes out against this crap.
    They don't even offer cash back or anything else. It is all about sneaking their sh*tware on the machines of unsuspecting fools who wanted a game. They add no value whatsoever and that will be their eventual undoing.

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    The other day I saw a range rover with the plates, "Zango". It stopped by my house (i live a city over from their head quarters). Out pops exactly who you think would drive a car like that with zango plates, a souless looking blonde bimbo, she only almost took up two parking spots, guess there really wasn't room enough for her to do it right.

    I really wanted to follow her into the store and ask the employees if they knew how she made her money, infecting kids with adware by serving up hardcore pornography.

    Maybe karma won't catch up with them, i think for that to work you have to have a soul.

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    I am trying to get an affiliate account so I can check all of our programs and get them removed.

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    I have to say I think Zango will be the shortest-lived of the parasites. They have attracted much attention and I think it will be them that is used as an example with the American public finally comes out against this crap.
    You mean until they change the name again and come up with a new version of the same software... Zango (180Solutions) have been around for a long time now in various formats.

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    I agree with Chris, I don't see them dying anytime soon. They also have offices in 3 other countries as well.

    What I find most disturbing is the message they seem to be sending out. All the comments about cookies, targeting, etc were leading up to the comments about that advertisers can just outbid on their own keywords/URLs (including their shopping cart URLs). Now that just reeks of paying protection money to me. But I've also talked to more than one person whose told me they have a Zango advertiser account just for that very reason. It sure as heck came up with AFF, although I never believed AFF was using Zango solely for that reason considering the other places I found their ads popping (and where I still see them). But I have spoken with people who I do believe that is the reason. I've had numerous people ask me if there was any other way they could deal with the competitors who were popping on them aside from outbidding to pop on their own site. I've spoken with even more people who have admitted they have seriously considered going down that road.

    Here Zango is flat out saying it. Now in the offline world, paying someone money in order to be able to run your business without interference isn't exactly new. But it is also, without a question or a doubt, illegal. How different is what Zango is doing? I don't know if offline laws would carry over or apply. But I strongly feel it's the same principle as far as what is happening. And should be treated by the online marketing community in the same way. To submit to such pressure as an adveriser is only contributing to the problem and giving Zango more financial clout to continue such heavy and underhanded tactics. Being apathetic towards it as an industry is just asking for a other companies to follow suit. Where will it end? How much money are advertisers willing to spend towards protecting their sites vs. actually marketing their sites to generate revenue?

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    Zango is having a heavy impact in the shoe vertical, we've dealing with them for a year. Shoebuy is heavily using them to target other merchants, another reason why I don't understand why affiliates work with those guys.
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    I don't understand why merchants allow it. There have been cases won in court for this kind of thing.

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    I think more merchants are doing this than is commonly known. It has turned into a big stupid conglomerate of merchants thinking they are promoting their brand in a positive light.
    I still stand by my statement that Zango will die a fast and painful death before the eyes and at the hands of the American public when they finally get tired of them hijacking their computers.

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    Need to start getting this stuff out there. Get in on video, YouTube it. There is nothing on there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust
    I don't understand why merchants allow it. There have been cases won in court for this kind of thing.
    I think cost of legal is a big issue. Judges are not web savvy, accessing damages is nebulous at best, combine that with Zango having deep pockets and merchants start wondering at the business cost of going to court with Zango.

    Personally, I feel Zango's stance is no different then someone from the mafia asking for protection money.
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    Need more of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wZZMg_wl8

    Get stuff like that, get the community to view it, comment it, get in on the front page. Press.

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    He even links to the article, where they're quoting Kellie:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...180folo02.html

    Some people got some stuff up:

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=AdWare

    I see Jason there

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    That's great - google is promoting zango... time to email google asking why my computer is infected...

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    It's Pay For Protection marketing.

    I've seen the YouTube Video before. It was uploaded in August. Google announced the buy of YouTube in October. I don't know if anyone has shown Zango ads happening on YouTube since Google took them over. That was probably served up by whatever Media company they were using at the time. Not that that's an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlineshoes MGR
    I think cost of legal is a big issue. Judges are not web savvy, accessing damages is nebulous at best, combine that with Zango having deep pockets and merchants start wondering at the business cost of going to court with Zango.

    Personally, I feel Zango's stance is no different then someone from the mafia asking for protection money.
    I see Washington State has being getting some press by taking a stand on shitware recently. Maybe their DAs office or Secretary of State will see some more photo ops. in chasing Zango. Then again, I wonder where Zango pays state income taxes to?

    Ha, they are out of Bellevue Washington. Oh nevermind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onlineshoes MGR
    Zango is having a heavy impact in the shoe vertical, we've dealing with them for a year. Shoebuy is heavily using them to target other merchants, another reason why I don't understand why affiliates work with those guys.
    Wow I hadn't known ShoeBuy, and their other Linkshare managed properties, where paying Zango protection and "Attack their Competitor" fees to Zango. Was at a clients infested computer that was tuned into a popup hellhole by the BHO hidden bundling schemes. Zango popups for ShowBuy -Expedia -Hotels -Gifts.com.

    Next I notice on the bottom of every page at www.ShoeBuy.com and all their other sites leakage links.... Partner Sites: Alsto's | Bagsbuy | Expedia | Frontgate | Gifts | Grandin Road | Hotels | Hotwire | Isabella Bird
    Sally Foster | ShoeBuy | Smith + Noble | TravelSmith | Improvements Catalog |Window Improvements | HSN | IOS Catalog | Territory Ahead | | Hotwire | Ballard Designs


    Maybe Ms.B could see if these links wash cookies as well as leak affiliate traffic. If the FTC and State AG's need to target a merchant group supporting crapware this would be a great one!
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    Just wondering why the authorities are not up to this.

    You open up a store, and here comes the bad guys telling you you can't open it (it's going to be blocked) unless you pay money (by outbiding other people.)

    Can't be more clear than that.

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    People should link to these youtube spware exposing videos, maybe push them up the serps.

    youtube gets google love: (I noticed a crappy IMO video is now ranking #2 for the keyword "shoes" despite only having around 3K backlinks. #3 has 30K!)

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