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  1. #1
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    Hydramedia shill thread
    Incentaclick may seem good, but the support you get is horrible and you are shunned quickly. They dont care about the publishers, just the money.

    I advise that everyone tries hydramedia instead. A much better site with more ads and friendly staff.

    You wont get the horrible support you get here from hydramedia.

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    vandalism??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurabh
    vandalism??

    Saurabh,

    It's the new gang wars syndrome. PPC against PPC. Taggers trying to out do each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coda
    I advise that everyone tries hydramedia instead. A much better site with more ads and friendly staff.
    Yep, sign up with HydraMedia and you'll get an endless flood of emails like this...

    Subject: Complainers...
    "It’s been a long weekend and all we need is a set of screams – so please remove these ones from your list ASAP…"

    Subject: New Screamers - supress ASAP!
    "It’s a LONG list so don’t freak out – but be sure to suppress all the emails below from your entire list ASAP. They tend to complain :("

    Subject: Remove Pronto
    "Please clean your list from these complainers – kind of long again!!!! (I guess a lot of people out there hate getting emails!) :)"

    Subject: Remove ASAP
    "Here are some complainers to block from your holiday mailings….enjoy!"

    Subject: Remove ppl
    "Here are some more to black-hole from your database… (Last email addy is my FAV…lol)"

    Subject: Remove
    "Be sure to remove this complainer..."

    Subject: remove
    "Block this guy - he is the next Dan Balsam :)"

    Subject: Remove > they hate emails!
    "The following list of people REALLY do not appreciate receiving emails. Please add to your global unsubscribes:"

    Subject: Remove
    "Make sure to dump these ppl out of your list!"

    Subject: Remove - these ones as well...
    "Here are more complainers….remove these from your list pronto."

    Subject: HUGE remove list...
    "Here is some more ppl that hate getting emails >>> (if you need my master list – with all the old removes for your file as well…let me know!)"
    "If you are mailing Inkjets - be especially SURE not to email this guy! He has been also added to the Ink offer suppression list!"

    Subject: Remove list! HUGE
    "It’s an enormous list! So beware and have fun :) …thanks"

    Subject: Screamers
    "Please remove"

    Subject: Mail haters...
    "Good morning > please remove these ppl from your list :)"

    Subject: Huge remove list
    "Don’t freak out - it’s a massive list this time – these ppl hate emails! Get them off your list ASAP J (btw – if you want the master list let me know.)"

    Subject: New remove list
    "Happy Monday – get these screamers off your list ASAP…"

    Subject: Block from you list!
    "Here is a lil gift for the weekend – block all these whiners!"

    I don't know what's most troubling about this:
    • The volume of email addresses on the remove list. (There are literally HUNDREDS of new ones in some of these emails!) Keep in mind that this: Most CPA Networks don't allow spammers to put direct CPA Network links in emails. They have to be links to another site, which redirect through the CPA Network and then to the offer. Most recipients will never see anything about the CPA Network. Only those who trace through the redirects will even know that the CPA Network was in the loop. These people had to trace the redirects, find contact information, and complain vocally enough that the CPA Network actually put them on a global remove list.
    • That this is being sent to all affiliates (apparently) rather than just the offenders.
    • That they don't take action against the offenders/spammers.
    • The attitude that they have about those who complain. (For example, "complainers", "whiners", "screamers", "hate getting emails", and poking fun at some specific addresses.) They have absolutely no respect for these poor victims of spam.
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    But Michael, other than that, what do you REALLY think about HydraMedia? And don't sugar - coat it!!

    This kind of bush league tactic is sooooo transparent. Oh well, onward to better things.
    Last edited by ALH - AmeritrustRx; February 17th, 2007 at 05:24 PM. Reason: update
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    yeah, hydramedia's spam is annoying, but it is helpful if you like knowing the latest campaigns.

    Either way, they have the same campaigns as incentaclick, they pay the same amount but there are so much more and the whole setup is better.

    Incentaclick is really just a joke.

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    hydramedia's spam is annoying, but
    But it's FINE and perfectly justifiable, no matter what kind of problems it causes, as long as some people are making money off it. That is what you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALH - AmeritrustRx
    But Michael, other than that, what do you REALLY think about HydraMedia? And don't sugar - coat it!!
    Sadly, I think they're really one of the better CPA Networks out there.
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    yeah, hydramedia are one of the best.

    Incentaclick could be good if they didn't treat their publishers like shit..

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    yes .Incentaclick seem a cheater.
    worst support don't reply me (some times )
    Worst Payments don't paid me form December 2006

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    For the Love of God don't you shills stop? Not only are these posts transparent and childish they are freaking annoying! Talk about a waste of bandwidth seesh! Here, I have a better idea ... take these matches and go play in the gas station, OK?

    Next idiot to post this type of crap again will get an IP ban!

    Admin Note: Thread renamed and moved.
    Continued Success,

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    Haiko, its useful information for people to note.

    Stopped people from using incentaclick.. jeez.

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    Goodbye coda and searchusa!

    I am not joking, whos' next?
    Continued Success,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiko de Poel, Jr.
    Goodbye coda and searchusa!

    I am not joking, whos' next?
    Ooooooooooooooo Daddy's pissed.
    Peace,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexanne
    Ooooooooooooooo Daddy's pissed.
    And rightly so....
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    Incentaclick provides support to all its publishers via dedicated account managers available at their disposal. We have no reason to suspend publishers that make us money, especially since we spend money to actively acquire new publishers. We will not however, put up with continuous blatant fraud. Our decision to suspend this publisher 'Coda' was not by any means quick, as our investigation went on for over one month. After collecting and analyzing several sets of data, the evidence was very conclusive that almost all traffic generated from this publisher was fraudulent.

    Further, we have a relationship with Hydra and we will gladly share this information as it will prove to be very valuable to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelColey
    Yep, sign up with HydraMedia and you'll get an endless flood of emails like this...
    Okay, so I heard back from my Account Manager, who was shown this "blog". Apparently I was wrong. None of HydraMedia.com's affiliates spam. All subscribers are opt-in.

    So I decided to look through some of the spam that I received today, to see which CPA Networks they were going through. Here's what I found:

    (Usually, the first on the redirect path is the spammer, the last is the advertiser, and the ones in between are CPA Networks.)

    Subject: 500 Dollar TOYS'R'US (R) Gift Card Inside
    Redirect Path: rtnvimail8.com, clicksmartaffiliates.com, greatamericangiveaways.com

    Subject: Forensic accountants are needed
    Redirect Path: avid-junction.net, adprofile.net (Adteractive), degreeusa.com

    Subject: Legally repair your credit to an A rating
    Redirect Path: veritonfind.com, ecreditrepair.com

    Subject: The year to further your career
    Redirect Path: rtnvimail18.com, free-college-info.com

    Subject: Cash Loans for women
    Redirect Path: premiumready.net, 6starads.com, quickcash4women.com, secure-cash.net

    Subject: Hello, Brighten your skin with Lumitone
    Redirect Path: theopenresource.com, marchnewsreturn.net, asseenontvnetwork.com, lumitonetv.com

    Subject: Financial aid is available for online universities
    Redirect Path: bigquestionmark.com, onlinestudentfinancialaid.com

    Subject: Canon Digital Camera for free!
    Redirect Path: scanningpie.com, eleadstracker.com (AdDrive), producttestpanel.com

    Subject: Wanna cut your chores in half? We have Tide 2x samples..Hurray!
    Redirect Path: dhifborg.info, twuecajo.info, lynxtrack.com, girlfriendremedies.com

    BINGO! lynxtrack.com is HydraMedia's tracking server. Found one from a HydraMedia affiliate after checking just nine spam emails. (And the very next spam email after that is a duplicate, sent one minute later.)

    Subject: Build your dream kitchen
    Redirect Path: rtnvimail6.com, forgyi.com (QuinStreet), guidetokitchenrenovations.com

    Subject: Manage your weight now
    Redirect Path: affordablevista.com, offerweb.com, hoodiatherm02.com

    Subject: Homeowners read on to save big
    Redirect Path: creativecasts.net, adprofile.net (Adteractive)

    Subject: To get your degree in a year- read on
    Redirect Path: secureinspiron.com, adprofile.net (Adteractive), degreeusa.com

    Subject: An Entire Case of Fine Wine plus a complimentary Vinters Wine Opener
    Redirect Path: securesolutionleads.com, clickboothlnk.com, clickbooth.com, 4seasonswine.com

    Subject: We Will Buy Your Property Now - Contact Us
    Redirect Path: rtnvimail13.com, rextopia.com, quick-house-buyers.com

    Subject: Hello, Let the bank to work for you
    Redirect Path: centralposition.com, commissionparadise.com, emortgagefinders.com

    Subject: Learn Ebay. Make Money
    Redirect Path: consumer-aware.com, clickboothlnk.com, clickbooth.com, onlinesuppliersignup.com

    Subject: Earn $100, $300 or more every week
    Redirect Path: affordable-advantage.com, primaryads.com, secureinternetstores.com

    Subject: Reduce Your Monthly Credit Cards Bills up to 75 Percent
    Redirect Path: servicewaretoday.com, 6starads.com, compete4me.com

    Subject: SAMPLE Tootsie Candy in a NEW Chocolate Flavor!
    Redirect Path: free2way.com, clickbooth.com, rewardsparade.com

    Subject: Get IRS Tax Relief!
    Redirect Path: salefreedom.com, ekmas.com (Media Breakaway), tracking101.com (Media Breakaway), redmccombsmedia.com, viralpartnership.com, (times out)

    Subject: Help for Credit Card bills
    Redirect Path: discoverytake.net, 6starads.com, debtfree2007.net

    It's amazing the number of CPA Networks who allow spam like this.
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    PW nowhere to be found....hmmm.......
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    Fun post for your 404th post, Joe - 404 not found.

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    I didn't realize it at the time but that is kinda funny!
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    The thing I sometimes dont like about hydramedia is their lack in faith in affiliates so they dont give decent raises or payouts unless they see proven perfomance at the start, but its like if someone can get a nice rate for an offer elsewhere why would they want to go to hydra for a crap rate and have to prove themselves.

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    WOW. A DOUBLE shill thread!

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    Enough of this ridiculousness.

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