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    Hi,

    i have a few questions regarding join program process at CJ.

    1. How many merchants approve affiliates automatically vs. manually? E.g. 10% auto / 90% manually, 50/50, or 80% auto / 20% manually, etc. Do you have any idea?

    2. If i applied for some program with my website A and was approved, and later i want to promote the same program on my other website B, do i need to apply again with website B, OR i can just use the same links/codes as on website A?

    3. Situation: i found some program, which i really like and want to promote. But, i don't have any website ready for it. Now, if merchant approved me, i'd be ready to put a lot of effort and build it, but i'm not ready to make it just to find out that i'm rejected.
    It's like "catch 22" - can't build before approved, but can't be approved before it's built. I guess there is some typical way to deal with situations like this?

    Probably those questions are not CJ-related only, but at the moment i'm more interested in CJ specifics.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unr8ed

    1. How many merchants approve affiliates automatically vs. manually? E.g. 10% auto / 90% manually, 50/50, or 80% auto / 20% manually, etc. Do you have any idea?
    One other number is how many approve manually, then just leave you in limbo for a couple years. j/k sort of. No idea on this one.

    2. If i applied for some program with my website A and was approved, and later i want to promote the same program on my other website B, do i need to apply again with website B, OR i can just use the same links/codes as on website A?
    You can just use the same links and codes. You have already been approved. It isn;t always in best practice to do this so you might want to contact the AM for the program, but technically your link is going to work wherever it is accepted and shows.

    3. Situation: i found some program, which i really like and want to promote. But, i don't have any website ready for it. Now, if merchant approved me, i'd be ready to put a lot of effort and build it, but i'm not ready to make it just to find out that i'm rejected.
    It's like "catch 22" - can't build before approved, but can't be approved before it's built. I guess there is some typical way to deal with situations like this?
    If you are not approved, you can always write the AM and say, I just bought such and such domain and am building a site around these products. It will not be active for quote a while, but I want to get the links in place before it launches, etc.......... and if they don;t approve you for some reason or if they just do not respond. Find their competition and promote them. It is the AMs loss. Especially if you do get the site to perform.

    With CJ, you are also given an e-mail address for all the AMs when you click on thier program or logo. You can always write them ahead of time as well (assuming that it is a correct e-mail) and let them know what you are thinking, then apply.

    Probably those questions are not CJ-related only, but at the moment i'm more interested in CJ specifics.
    Your questions are CJ related because you are asking CJ specific and not industry or multiple networks =0)

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    Hi unr8ed...welcome.

    Any AM worth his/her salt would be glad to hear from an affiliate who is willing to work for them...even if they don't have a site. They might want to know what online experience you do have or if you have other sites out of the niche they might want to take a look. But it wouldn't take an AM long to determine if you would be worth the risk.

    Personally anyone who contacts me would ALWAYS get a chance to show what they can do.

    If you can't get in touch with the AM or they take a long time to get back to you you might want to reconsider working with them. That may just be a sign that the program isn't really any good. Out them here and you'll find out quickly what other affiliates think of them.

    Also, you didn't say what niche you are talking about, but certainly consider other networks besides CJ. There's lots of fish in the sea.

    Good luck.

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    Thank you Liquidate and Rick, your answers are very helpful!

    As you can see from my questions, i'm very new to AM, and just trying to figure things out. Of course i understand there are other networks, i just started with CJ and Linkshare, because it seems that they are 2 "major" ones.

    What i don't really understand, is why this practice of "manual" approval of affiliates exists at all? Why merchants can't just allow everyone to be their affiliate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unr8ed
    Why merchants can't just allow everyone to be their affiliate?
    If you were a merchant selling products, would you want your product advertised on a site that promotes violence, hate, bigotry, child porn, or the list goes on and on.

    Actually when I join a merchant and I get an auto-approve, it makes me take a second look at the merchant. Is it so bad they'll take anyone?

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    Hi Mack,

    i understand your point, but i don't see how manual approval solve this problem. Since an affiliate has to apply only once, he can apply with "clean" site and then use links all over his other "bad" sites, or he can change the site's content later after approved, etc.

    Sorry, seems that we go offtopic here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unr8ed
    What i don't really understand, is why this practice of "manual" approval of affiliates exists at all? Why merchants can't just allow everyone to be their affiliate?

    I have a few things for you to review here on this question. Also I am including just one of many possible scenarios.

    1. Parasites
    Steak commissions from you and your other affiliates making it not a good program to work with and giving you and your company a bad name.
    2. Affiliates who hookup with parasites for sub affiliate agreements
    They again steal from your other affiliates and split the profits with the parasite because the parasite places their links on their site with the other affiliates tracking info.
    3. Non relevant fraud traffic
    Affiliates who are sending fraudulent bids, sending traffic which will buy then cancel or send chargebacks just so they can get commissions, fraudulent clicks, and more...

    There are tons of other reasons why you do not just let anyone into your program. Well unless you are a huge company with a huge budget and it will not matter to you.
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