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    So I'm about a month old in the Affiliate Marketing world now.. and I'd like to get something going, even if it just earns me like $5 a week. I know that once I get something going I'll want to increase the momentum and eventually have more success in AM, but I wanted to see if anyone had any tips on how to get the ball rolling?

    Right now I have two blogs that are attracting decent traffic. One is personal and isn't really targeted to any specific topic. The other is kind of a top stories/Hollywood blog that receives a lot of hits through keywords like "britney". I have Adsense on those, but have only earned $1.40 in two months.

    I also have a couple affiliate links in my signatures for forums I tend to frequent and post in.

    Any tips on something I could do to get the ball rolling? Thanks!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackStands
    Right now I have two blogs that are attracting decent traffic.
    Traffic is the first and last requirement - it depends on what you consider to be "decent". Also - blog readers aren't really going to be shoppers, there are ways of making it work for you, but traffic needs to be there. I'd say about 1000 unique visitors a day is a starting point for building on and making some proper money.

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    Hi Jack and welcome!

    I'll save you some time. Start with this thread: http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=79507

    and move on from there. :-) Searching for points of interest and reading "new posts" on ABW daily will get you going in the right direction.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackStands
    Right now I have two blogs that are attracting decent traffic. One is personal and isn't really targeted to any specific topic. The other is kind of a top stories/Hollywood blog that receives a lot of hits through keywords like "britney". I have Adsense on those, but have only earned $1.40 in two months.
    You might want to get more specific and you might consider having a "static site" that compliments one or both blogs. Whether you aim to earn money through Adsense or through selling products/services, a niche and/or theme will help target traffic.
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    Hi JackStands,

    One of the major things that I had to learn over the past few years is the differnce between site visitors looking for info and entertainment and site visitors that want to buy things.

    If you have 100 uniques a day and all they want is the latest scoop on Britney's hair, I'm not sure how to turn that into $$$.

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    This is all very helpful information. Thanks!

    I just realized that a lot of these one page sites that people on here build are actually for products that they're an affiliate for and not products that they actually created themselves. This has been today's big breakthrough.. now I'm off to create a few product pages.. any tips?

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    You never know what keyword will place high in the serps on any given day. I don't gamble at casinos or play the daily number, but I always feel like I'm placing a bet when I create a new product page, or go after a keyword niche.

    I've tried to diversify my sites so that when one section is down another might just be up.

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    Is it a good idea to just have a one-page website (basically a landing page hooked up to an affiliate storefront), and then bid on adwords to generate traffic to that page?

    And yes, it is very hard to make money from blog-base sites... which I am finally starting to embrace since most of my sites are like that.

    Although I still enjoy blogging and will continue to do so regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickPlmr
    Is it a good idea to just have a one-page website (basically a landing page hooked up to an affiliate storefront), and then bid on adwords to generate traffic to that page?
    I think it's good to have a website (one page or more) that is complementary to one or more blogs with or without adwords.

    Do things right and you can create a volley on one hand and such a situation can be an "anchor/sail situation" where the website serves as "an anchor" and the changing blogs set sail ideas yet always come back to the anchor so to speak.
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    Thanks Rhia,

    I can't quite envision what this would look like yet, but I'll give it some thought. I mean, I know what a web page looks like but I don't know what the contents would look like that would be complimentary to one of my blogs...

    Oh wait, how about a page that lists products of interest to readers of my blog? With a link to it on my blog?

    That would keep it separate from my blog posts, so the posts didn't sound like I was trying to sell them something, but it would also provide something of interest to readers who were in the mood to buy something...

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickPlmr
    Although I still enjoy blogging and will continue to do so regardless
    I agree.

    I also enjoy MySpace and have been fooling around there to the exclusion of too much so to speak but I intend to turn things around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickPlmr
    Thanks Rhia,

    I can't quite envision what this would look like yet, but I'll give it some thought. I mean, I know what a web page looks like :-) but I don't know what the contents would look like that would be complimentary to one of my blogs...

    Oh wait, how about a page that lists products of interest to readers of my blog? With a link to it on my blog?

    That would keep it separate from my blog posts, so the posts didn't sound like I was trying to sell them something, but it would also provide something of interest to readers who were in the mood the buy something...

    Thanks again!
    Exactly -- plus you could include content that is related to your blogs but not necessarily on them -- just enough content on the website to keep it from looking like a link farm or just a "product pusher."
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    I'll work on that this week, and post results later on. This is going to be great - it'll keep me from having to think of ways to weed in sales pitches into my blog posts, which will mean I can blog away about what I'm passionate about.

    But it'll still give me a way to monetize the sites, and it sounds like it'll be more effective than the approaches I've been taking so far.

    I'm sure there will still be times when it's appropriate to put a link in a blog post, like one I posted a few weeks ago about using my bicycle trainer with a training DVD now that the weather is crappy.

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickPlmr
    But it'll still give me a way to monetize the sites, and it sounds like it'll be more effective than the approaches I've been taking so far.
    I'm convinced (at least in theory based upon observation in general and upon mistakes I have made) that it's a "rhythm schema" but in order for the schema to work, each blog and the site or sites have to be constructed well and in a pleasing manner -- when that is taken as a given, the "rhythm" can take over.

    I personally need lots of work on my main websites in terms of the CSS structure, the general structure but I learned a great deal from a mistake on one blog when I wasn't following the proper "give and take rhythm" (i.e. I dumped too many products that were way too similar one after the other without enough written content to create interest).

    The main thing is to create an interest and if you can create a volley from one blog to a website back and forth you've created an interest -- People won't even know it's a pitch (they will be too interested).

    Ofcourse the "rhythm" vibrates around some type of interesting (i.e. niche/theme) topic in order for the flow to be created.
    The potential customer of a product or service will become interested in something specific but there can be general info that leads the person ultimately to the specific.
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    What do you mean by "volley"?

    Do you mention your product page in your blog, and then mention your blog in your product page?... or is it something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickPlmr
    What do you mean by "volley"?

    Do you mention your product page in your blog, and then mention your blog in your product page?... or is it something else?
    That's the general idea.

    I think it's good to write something in a blog with text links to your main page.
    I think it's fine to have products in a blog but there needs to be a variation created by your writing style. Capture the person's interest and then have a subtle link to your main site within your blog paragraph/entry.

    It's a volley meaning one "bounces" to the other but lightheartedly.
    A key to this is mega creation on your part.
    I've been reading an intelligent webmaster's "mega creation" and there are always links that I follow (but the pages are all his) -- he's trying to convince the reader of a certain train of thought -- the affiliate wants to "convert" the reader into a buyer of some type. I am convinced that there is more money in "mega creation" than in sending people off to Adsense links (diff. debate)
    The key is to constantly create around a theme and within that you can sell products but it is better to keep the viewer "on your property" so to speak.
    This takes a lot of work & I hope to accomplish something like what I've mentioned -- this can be done on any topic the webmaster is interested in -- a topic the webmaster is willing to go in depth -- depth is the key and that can be done via a "mega creation" that can start out slowly but each time one thing will be connected to the other.

    The worst thing for a visitor to a website to feel is that he/she is being sledgehammered with too many links/popups/whatever or something the visitor sees too much/too often/been there done that
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    Now I can start to see the value of ShareaSale's "Create a Custom Link to a Page" feature!

    Commission Junction has a similar feature, where you can link to individual products, but I haven't figured out how to link to a specific page using CJ's tools.

    Is there a way to determine which merchants have storefront scripts, either in SAS or CJ?

    I received a nice email from Carolyn at PrintableGamesAtoZ that included storefront html for some St. Patrick's Day games and activities - perfect for a blog post on one of my sites (thanks Carolyn if you're reading this! ) And if any other merchants are reading this, that kind of thing is really helpful for affiliates!

    Actually, any time I get an email from a merchant with built-in html codes for me to paste into my sites, it's a big help and often gives me ideas for content that I might not have considered before receiving their email, so feel free to keep those emails coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickPlmr
    Now I can start to see the value of ShareaSale's "Create a Custom Link to a Page" feature!
    ShareaSale's "Make-a-Page" tool was really good when it mixed different merchants who sold the same thing (i.e. t-shirts)
    I'm not sure if Make-a-Page still takes products from multiple merchants, if not they & the affiliates are missing out.

    I would then extract the product links because I am not interested in the CSS or page that Make-a-Page creates but I am interested in a variety of products that might interest one of my visitors even on the stretch.

    CJ's custom link finder is great because they have all the merchants mixed and I can pick out which ones I want.

    My advice to anyone trying to start would be to find a variety of products that relate to the topic[s] of your site -- don't specialize in only one merchant, branch out and try to put a personal touch on what you do if possible because the personal touch will differentiate you from the rest.
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    I have not been able to find a custom link generator on CJ... if you have a chance will you please post how to get there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickPlmr
    I have not been able to find a custom link generator on CJ... if you have a chance will you please post how to get there?
    Go to "Home"
    On menu click "Get Links"
    In Search Box click on products in blank box type what you want (i.e. t-shirt) and you will see just about every merchant who sells that item.

    This is very handy for applying to merchants too because merchants you do not affiliate with will appear. The only problem is sometimes merchants who have declined you will appear too

    I hate when a merchant's products appear in CJ even though the merchant declined me because that merchant might have thousands of products that you'll have to look at first!!
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    So I'm about a month old in the Affiliate Marketing world now.. and I'd like to get something going, even if it just earns me like $5 a week. I know that once I get something going I'll want to increase the momentum and eventually have more success in AM, but I wanted to see if anyone had any tips on how to get the ball rolling?
    Welcome aboard - This post sounds so much like me when I started except I did everything wrong after it. What got me going is reading here at Abestweb and taking action on what I learned.

    Set some goals where you want to be and do small stuff to acheive that. Most people come to the internet because they have a problem or they are searching for a product that they can use to solve that problem. If you can build a niche website (or blog) that has a solution and steady traffic you will be ok.

    Getting searches for "Britney" may be ok but the competion is huge. What was the competetion for "britneys wigs" I am sure that was typed in the search boxes like crazy this week.

    Take your time, don't be discouraged and think outside the box.
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    Here's a suggestion for newbies that can give you a jumpstart without buying a domain and hosting. Try creating several pages on Squidoo.com which Google seems to love to index. I have seen several affiliates make sales for niche pages. Fresh content gets noticed. Then create an account at Netscape and Digg, submit your site with some fresh copy and then ask a bunch of your friends to vote on it and to rate it on Squidoo. The backlinks help your site get Google rankings and traffic. If it starts to take off then purchase a domain and hosting for the successful pages. Leave the dogs behind!!

    The secret to success in online and affiliate marketing is to try several things, capitalize on the successes and add some more to the queue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hamrick
    Try creating several pages on Squidoo.com which Google seems to love to index.
    Okay, what if the webmaster already has domains & sites?
    Would the act of creating a lens on Squidoo.com help direct traffic to pre-existing sites?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hamrick
    I have seen several affiliates make sales for niche pages.
    The important term seems to be niche.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Hamrick
    Fresh content gets noticed. Then create an account at Netscape and Digg, submit your site with some fresh copy and then ask a bunch of your friends to vote on it and to rate it on Squidoo.

    The secret to success in online and affiliate marketing is to try several things, capitalize on the successes and add some more to the queue.
    Thanks for the ideas, Chuck.

    Just one thing: if we sell things on Squidoo.com, that's not our domain.
    How do AMs feel about affiliates selling products on 3rd party domains such as MySpace.com or Squidoo.com or some other?

    Once upon a time the "communities" of Geocities.com were hot but many AMs discouraged affiliates from having sites on Geocities and instead stressed the importance of domains -- so are AMs more cozy now with 3rd party sites?
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    Rhia,
    Here's an approach I've taken recently which means "results to come".

    I have a niche site with lots and lots of articles, some of which contain affiliate links. I have a "same niche" blog linked to that site with articles blurbs linking to the full articles on the site. I also have a Squidoo lens for the same niche with RSS feeds from the blog.

    I have repeated this process for a couple of my primary sites and plan to continue doing so (nine primary sites). I also use Adsense with categories for the primary sites so I can track where the dollar generation is occuring.

    Note to Jack:
    Welcome to the world of affiliate marketing. Just so you know, I am currently redesigning a site for an affiliate marketer who has been in business for about 9 years and can now afford an advertising budget in excess of $2,000 a DAY for search marketing.

    He also recently received an advance from a publishing company for a book he's writing. So, Jack, the world is out there waiting for your success. Jump on it.

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    I've heard about Squidoo.com a few times. Will read more to see what it's all about. From just now checking around it seems most of them have affiliate links all over. So I'm thinking Google might love them now but will eventually get zapped and since they allow affiliate links, sooner or later will drown in spam.

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