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    Viacom wants $1 B from the G
    Did Google get insurance with that purchase? Story on CNN about Viacom seeking 1 billion for unauthorized use of its copyrighted entertainment displayed on YouTube.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/biz...eut/index.html
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    Good! Always nice to see G reminded that they're not the only behemoth company in the world!

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    If this follows the track of other threats, it is just a negotiating move by viacom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chetf
    If this follows the track of other threats, it is just a negotiating move by viacom.
    Spoilsport

    Probably accurate sport-spoilage, but it's still fun, because now G has to come up with something better than the usual attitude of "we're Google, so screw you" as a response.

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    Viacom vs Google?

    I guess this will show who is the biggest bully on the block.

    After all, these huge sompanies really have nothing to lose here. After all the dust settles, Viacom will license its products to Google and receive a royalty from the money that Google charges its users.

    BTW - Google's User are all of US!

    So who is really the loser in this deal?

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    maybe this is googles plan to legitimize the content on You Tube and the fees(?) to follow? Network execs were saying that Apple saved Network TV when they leveraged Ipods into the video arena and they stood in line to get content encoded mere days after it played for free via the boob tube making millions on sales.

    Can you say YouTube subscription? follow the money trail ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    Good! Always nice to see G reminded that they're not the only behemoth company in the world!
    Yes, but guess who's really going to have to pay for it. :-)

    I feel a new quality score in the wind!!

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    Was just going to post this in the new Web 2.0 forum but it looks like I was beat to the draw. I'm really curious to see if they strike a deal.

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    Viacom made a deal with Joost, i bet you anything VIacom will go after YouTube with a vengence.

    YouTube will lose and a lot of people will turn to Joost.

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    I doubt it goes to trial. If it does, i doubt G wins.

    Substitute [copyrighted video] for [copyrighted music]. (remember napster?)

    An anonymous 3rd party doing your dirtywork, is still dirtywork.
    GooTube can keep nudies off the site, but not copyrighted stuff, cmon...

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    Post Viacom to sue YouTube.com for $1B USD
    Just some interesting (though not shocking) news I came across this morning...

    Viacom, owners of VH1, MTV, Comedy Central, etc., are tackling YouTube.com (bought out by Google as most of you know by now, in November 2006) for $1B US on premise of alleged copyright infringement.

    Viacom is demanding that YouTube.com remove more than 100,000 unauthorized clips from its site including clips from Comedy Central's The Daily Show with Jon Stuart, Nickelodeon's Spongebob Squarepants and others.

    Full story available here: http://680news.com/news/business/art...ntent=b031390A

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    edit- merged the post directly above into this thread.

    Apparently they're going to use the Safe Harbor defense:

    http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/

    except this part:

    "have no knowledge of, or financial benefit from, the infringing activity"

    Of course they know, so we'll see how this plays out in court. Could just be what Chet said leveraging by Viacom for a licensing deal.

    "Google confident digital liability law protects it"

    http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...S1.xml&src=rss
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    Google can't pull the safe hrbor defense, they tried it and lost before.

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    Viacom is just using this as a tool to strengthen their negotiating hand. Google and wiggle all they want, but in the end, if they do not agree to terms that are beneficial to Viacom, Viacom will simply tell them to remove the offending material from their site.

    Itis not in the interest of either party to see a legal resolution to this lawsuit before a deal is struck.

    Perhaps partial ownership of YouTube by Viacom?
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    I don't pretend to have any idea how this will pan out, but I'm pretty confident that neither party wants this in court. Google is clearly in a legal whole right now, but we all know that Viacom and its subsidiaries are profiting from the exposure their content gets on YouTube.

    I mean, honestly, this stuff is like free advertising, especially as it relates to ComedyCentral spots. One of my favorite clips of all time is Jon Stewart talking about the net neutrality act. It was ALMOST enough to make me watch his show (I probably would have if my wife wasn't anti Daily Show - but when momma aint happy...).

    My take of the situation: Google makes money from YouTube ads; Viacom increases exposure generating interest which increases viewership. Viacom just realizes that they can get more from Google if they push hard enough. But here's a question: would Google have to make a similar deal with every content provider whose content winds up on YouTube? How profitable could such an arrangement be for Google long-term?
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    Now NBC is getting in line as well as the Football Association Premier League, England's most prestigious soccer organization...Hell even The Country of Thailand is sueing Youtube know. This and the Digg copywrite issues are sure to define the landscape a bit.

    http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6...ml?tag=nl.e550

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    This is making news again, I know they filed it last year but looks like they have some amended versions

    recent news pick ups - http://news.google.com/news?sourceid...-revision&cd=1

    Google says Viacom's suit 'threatens' Net
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9952165-7.html

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    Google is just scared and Im happy to see them scared.

    Google has to do a lot more on YouTube to protect copyrights and they just fall short.

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