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    Hi all,

    Shawn and I are discussing how best to organize the submission of opinion papers for the Nov 7 meeting.

    Is there anyone out there who would be willing / able to set up some sort of form where people could identify themselves, enter their material, and the form would send out a receipt and send copies to both Shawn and myself? At this point we don't know if we'll get a trickle or a torrent of submissions, but if part of the process could be automated it would make our jobs easier.

    Elisabeth Archambault

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    I'm no programmer, so I can't help you there. However, I know it shouldn't be that hard.

    I have a question. What exactly are these submission papers supposed to be? Are there any specific guidlines to conform to?

    I would like to prepare something maybe.

    Other than that, what else can I do to help?

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    I would guess a cgi script should do the work.

    Maybe put up a webpage with a form with variables like these:

    - first name
    - last name
    - one of your websites
    - been an affiliate since
    - networks I'm signed up with
    - subject
    - complaint
    - suggestions

    I'm sure Wayne has some better ideas as to what information should be included.

    Anyway, after affilistes fill out the form, the script writes the data to a text file and/or send the data by email. Then Shawn or yourself could import the data to Word using a template or directly to print or whatever you like.

    No special script needed, just a standard cgi form-submit script. I know of a good one if you need one.

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    [This message was edited by Cellophane on October 21, 2002 at 03:21 PM.]

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    Herby from iafma.org has offered to set something up to help. I'll make sure he reads your comments, Cellophane.

    I don't have the skills to do it myself or the time to learn them, so help from someone who already knows how is much appreciated.

    I'll post again when things are ready.

    Elisabeth Archambault

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    We've got a page set up at http://iAfma.org/papers where opinion papers can be submitted.

    Submit away - we will be accepting papers through Nov. 1 (we'll need some time to pour over everything and summarize it for the meeting).

    Shawn Collins
    Director of Affiliate Marketing
    ClubMom, Inc.
    http://clubmomaffiliates.com/
    http://iAfma.us/
    http://affiliatemanager.net/

    [edited to fix a typo]

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    One thing, though, with a position paper...

    Many, many of these affiliates don't really want to give out their web address. This does not mean they don't have issues with parasites, they just don't want twenty copycats duplicating their sites. What allowances are you going to make for people with these security concerns? They should, after all, have a right to an opinion and representation.

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    Affiliate Summit Guy Shawn Collins's Avatar
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    I understand the desire for some to maintain a degree of secrecy. Would you be OK with myself and Elisabeth signing some sort of global NDA?

    Shawn Collins
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    I would be willing to commit to that.

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    Just a short note to play devil's advocate here Elisabeth. (By the way, congratulations upon being selected by a group of your peers - myself included - to attend what I consider to be an historic meeting. I wish you well in this venture, but be aware that some of the players at the networks; especially at the CEO level, are there to do what is best for their companies first. This is not a slam upon them, as they also have put this meeting together due in great part to our insistence. But, they are also trying to placate a very divergent group of players, including us)

    Anyway, the devil's advocate part comes in as it applies to a "global" NDA. You do not have to disclose a damned thing for it to still come back at you in ways unimaginable. Keep to your P's and Q's pertaining to exactly what you are signing here.

    All for you....

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    elbowcreek -

    How about if the names and sites are shared with those at the meeting, but not otherwise made public?

    For those affiliates that have successful sites, I think it's imperative that their names and sites be attached to their opinions, in order to combat the perception that only smaller affiliates care about this issue.

    Shawn Collins
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Shawn Collins -
    For those affiliates that have successful sites, I think it's imperative that their names and sites be attached to their opinions, in order to combat the perception that only smaller affiliates care about this issue.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I think an affiliate ID of an ad network would suffice and it doesn't matter if a $5 a month or a $50K a month affiliate is issuing the paper, it is a problem that has been identified to affect all affiliates. I really find it disheartening that you, a rep, publicly states such.

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    Haiko -

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think an affiliate ID of an ad network would suffice and it doesn't matter if a $5 a month or a $50K a month affiliate is issuing the paper, it is a problem that has been identified to affect all affiliates. I really find it disheartening that you, a rep, publicly states such.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    That could work if every affiliate supplied their affiliate ID's for each solution provider, and the solution provider reps had lists of every affiliate ID and the corresponding sites.

    But that's not very practical or realistic.

    Of course, this issue affects all affiliates - we're on the same page with that, as I stated, there is a perception that this issue only resonates with smaller affiliates.

    I want solution providers and merchants to understand that affiliates of all shapes and sizes are in this fight.

    Shawn Collins
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    A good insight is a good insight no matter where it comes from, and Shawn and I will do our best to incorporate everyone's concerns into the presentation we make.

    But the fact remains: the more people who clearly identify themselves and take ownership of their opinions, the stronger our voice will be.

    The more clearly we can show that people from all across the spectrum share similar concerns, the stronger our voice will be.

    BTW, there have been some truly excellent papers come in so far.

    Elisabeth Archambault

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