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    Newbie glunnen's Avatar
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    I haven't had any luck with them
    I just started using Miva PPC last week. My experience hasn't been good (1 sale in 1700 clicks on an established product line). I'm using up whatever balance I have left and moving on.

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    MIVA aka FindWhat has "very poor" partner sites...

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    Lite On The Do, Heavy On The Nuts Donuts's Avatar
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    if you had searched ABW for Miva or FindWhat beforehand, you coulda saved yourself some money.

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    The Seal of Aproval rematt's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by glunnen
    I just started using Miva PPC last week. My experience hasn't been good (1 sale in 1700 clicks on an established product line). I'm using up whatever balance I have left and moving on.
    Check your server logs and find out where the clicks came from. I had a similiar experience with a different "budget" PPSSE and after looking at my logs and doing a little investigation discovered that a large number of clicks came from non-existent domains (blank pages when you went there), Russian domains (I specified North American traffic only) that were nothing but empty i-frames and traffic from porn sites (I again specified no porn sites) that were redirected from a tech blog that didn't really exist, but this was their way around my specifiying no porn.

    I confronted the SE with the data that I had gathered and after several weeks of denying that the traffic came from ( I had landing pages that were specific to their traffic) they finally chose to ignore me and stopped responding to my e-mails and phone messages.

    But all was not lost. If you paid the SE with a credit card you can dispute the charges as fraudulant with your credit card company. Once you dispute the charges it's up to the merchant to prove that they were legitimate and the charges are suspended. In this case the SE didn't even try and the charges were permantly removed from my account after 90 days.

    Hopefully you can recoup some the money you wasted with Miva, the lesson learned is that if it looks to good to be true...

    -rematt
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    Approach the 2nd tier search engines with much caution. I know of some people who do manage a profit with their 2nd tier campaigns but I have lost money with every attempt. Too much garbage traffic...

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    Newbie glunnen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rematt
    Hopefully you can recoup some the money you wasted with Miva, the lesson learned is that if it looks to good to be true...

    -rematt
    Thanks Rematt and others. I didn't invest a whole lot in the Miva campaign so I'll just take it on the chin and chalk it up to experience. I just joined ABW on Friday and have since read other negative posts about Miva and the quality of their traffic - unfortunately, by that time I'd already tried their PPC and learned the hardway. Never again.

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    The Seal of Aproval rematt's Avatar
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    I just joined ABW on Friday and have since read other negative posts about Miva and the quality of their traffic
    Gee, that sounds familiar. I "discovered" ABW after I made my first big mistake (funny how that works out). Now I search the forums for info on any company that I'm considering doing business with either as an affiliate or customer. Doesn't mean that I won't make more mistakes, but it has helped avoid some of he moe expensive ones.

    Read all you can here. You'll find a lot of knowledge and experience and when you can't find an answer, ask more questions.

    Welcome aboard and good luck.

    -rematt
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    Newbie glunnen's Avatar
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    Miva did an analysis of my traffic and couldn't find any problems to explain my lousy conversion rate. However, they said in their email . . .

    "We have, however, made adjustments to your traffic sources and greatly optimized your traffic in an effort to increase your conversion rate going forward."

    Hmmm. If this is the case, why isn't traffic optimized to start with?

    I think I'll bail.

    Greg

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    I have used miva a few times (glutton fot punishment) and have found it poor at best. At first I thought it was the subject and the the time of year and finally realized it was miva. I would not use them again.

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