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    Question Anyone Else Got an Erotic Boutique Mail?
    Not sure if I am the only one, but I have just received a "program review" from a merchant I have never known existed. They are at SaS, and they call themselves an Erotic Boutique (name of the "boutique" normally precedes the phrase)... Has anyone else gotten this?

    Note to SaS: most of the things they sell are quite explicitly adult. Not sure how there were allowed into SaS. Brian, check your PM.

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    Why should they not be "allowed" into SAS?
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    Shareasale has adult merchants... adult doesn't = porn.
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    IMHO, there is nothing wrong with Adult Toy Merchants. The difference is in the way they are advertised.

    They can definitely be advertised tastefully.
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    Ok....

    Here's my thinking:

    I know ShareASale does not allow "adult content" websites in as affiliates. If adult content merchants are allowed, how exactly they should be promoted if adult content affiliates are not allowed?

    Geno

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    I can't speak for SAS but my feeling is that by "adult content" they mean PORN.

    CJ has "adult product" merchants too, Linkshare I'm not sure but I'd bet a buck

    BTW many of the products promoted on the website mentioned here are available in most corner drugstores in this country, as well as on Amazon.com.
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    Adult content and porn are two different things Geno. Shareasale allows adult sites, but not Porn sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loxly
    Adult content and porn are two different things Geno.
    David seems to believe differently (cf above). I also think it seems they actually mean "porn" when they say "adult content". It'd be good to hear clarifications from SaS on this.

    My initial post was actually primarily NOT about them being adult, adult content, porn, or whatever else. In all honesty, I couldn't care less if I didn't get an e-mail from them today... My initial question was whether anyone else got an e-mail they didn't ask for, irrelevant to what they (e-mail recipients) are doing as far as their affiliate activity...

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    "My initial question was"

    Our responses were to the puritanical assumption that this vendor should not be "allowed" in the network.
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    AM Navigator Geno Prussakov's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidh
    Our responses were to the puritanical assumption that this vendor should not be "allowed" in the network.
    I did notice. ...and I've clarified where the "puritanical assumption" -- which is really more of an observation how some affiliates (that are at times more innocent than this) get declined -- comes from.

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    Dimout was in SAS for years. They had toys, videos, lingerie etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno Prussakov
    Ok....

    Here's my thinking:

    I know ShareASale does not allow "adult content" websites in as affiliates. If adult content merchants are allowed, how exactly they should be promoted if adult content affiliates are not allowed?

    Geno
    If you think you're confused, think again!

    The following agreement is summarized as follows:

    Adult, Hate, or other related sites are not allowed
    Source: http://www.shareasale.com/agreement.cfm
    And.....

    REGISTRATION

    THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF SITES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN shareasale.com: ADULT SITES, SITES THAT DISPLAY ADULT BANNERS, SITES THAT PROMOTE VIOLENCE, BIGOTRY, OR HATRED. SITES THAT PROMOTE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, including but not limited to WAREZ, CRACKING, and HACKING SITES.
    Source: http://www.shareasale.com/agreement.cfm
    So what is really "adult content" material?

    For some it would be just p o r n, for some it would be showing skin, s e x toys, etc.




    To me "adult content" material, is anything that it should not be shown on any family friendly website.

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    Dating sites are not for kids. I could see them successfully promoting a "toy" merchant and not being porn related or pushing porn. There are mainstream affiliates who could properly market them.

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    Adult content and pr0n are two different things Geno. Shareasale allows adult sites, but not Porn sites.
    Adult products on a site (unless they're well obfuscated} will trip the adult filter at Google just like pr0n will. And many (maybe even most) webmasters won't know that, and will wonder why their site is MIA from Google Search.

    That's exactly what happened to a friend's site, from one single page on the site promoting a SAS merchant. Poof! Site gone right outta Google! However, removing the filter in the search preferences, there the site was.

    What I suggested to him was that in my estimation he'd better to making of $$$ off that one merchant to compensate for losing all visibility for every single individual using the engine who has the adult filter on.

    Pr0n is in the eye of the beholder. Most people who want "family-friendly" search really don't want to see nekked butts, bellies and and boobs hanging out, or whips, chains and bondage gear. They may be "adult" but to a good percentage of the population they're no different from pr0n, and the filters seem to favor that opinion or they wouldn't filter a site for having it.

    It is NOT smart to have kids bathtub toys and sex toys on the same site - and my guess is that a lot of people won't know, will assume it's OK, and scratch their heads when they think their site has been "banned" for no reason.
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    Not sure how there were allowed into SaS
    OK, so SAS does allow adult stuff in. I assume Brian is the one who made that decison - but he's a guy isn't he?

    Then if allowed, it should be suitably and visibly labeled as such if a merchant carries such products.

    I clicked on a new featured merchant without knowing, and I have to say that I found the site seriously offensive - especially since I wasn't expecting it. IMHO anything adult should be very clearly flagged as such, people do NOT appreciate those kinds of surprises and would very much appreciate being warned so they won't click if they choose not to see a site with that stuff.

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    It is NOT smart to have kids bathtub toys and sex toys on the same site - and my guess is that a lot of people won't know, will assume it's OK, and scratch their heads when they think their site has been "banned" for no reason.
    I agree 100% - Affiliates should keep those two separated, if they want to promote both business.

    Pr0n is in the eye of the beholder. Most people who want "family-friendly" search really don't want to see nekked butts, bellies and and boobs hanging out, or whips, chains and bondage gear. They may be "adult" but to a good percentage of the population they're no different from pr0n, and the filters seem to favor that opinion or they wouldn't filter a site for having it.
    Pr0N might be in the eye of the beholder but, , , , , , etc, don't belong on a "family-friendly" website, period!








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    OK, so SAS does allow adult stuff in. I assume Brian is the one who made that decison - but he's a guy isn't he?
    Hey manbasher, is it really just guys buying and enjoying what they sell?

    I clicked on a new featured merchant without knowing, and I have to say that I found the site seriously offensive
    Seriously... in bold... seriously? hmmmm... link please?

    (manbasher name calling was a joke - as i assume your blaming a "guy" was - please take it as such.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuts
    is it really just guys buying and enjoying what they sell?
    Hell no! Most of those toys are for (or benefiting) women
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    This has been hands down the most, ummm, interesting thread I have read here at ABW. Thanks for the entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donuts
    Hey manbasher, is it really just guys buying and enjoying what they sell?
    That's Ms. Manbasher to you, sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent E.
    This has been hands down the most, ummm, interesting thread I have read here at ABW. Thanks for the entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexanne
    Hell no! Most of those toys are for (or benefiting) women
    How do you know that they benefit women ????????

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    Oh, c'mon, Richard!!









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    They write about them all around the place, and even talk about them on TV (e.g., the "Sex in the City" show).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sal
    I agree 100% - Affiliates should keep those two separated, if they want to promote both business.
    Pr0N might be in the eye of the beholder but, , , , , , etc, don't belong on a "family-friendly" website, period!

    Exactly, Mr. Sal. Which is more than likely why I didn't get an email from them. But it does kind of get me wondering about the sites of those who did get them.

    Hey Brent, so right here there's an innovative marketing idea for you that might please certain un-named adversarial type males in this thread, for your bedroom furniture store:

    Bedroom Accessories - handcuffs, duct tape and Dominatrix Duds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurgerBoy
    How do you know that they benefit women ????????
    Peace,

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