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    Outsourced Program Manager paladin's Avatar
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    Angry Some sub-contractors drive me crazy
    I just needed to get some steam off...

    I work with a number of sub-contratcors for different projects: programming, web design, SEO etc...Most of the time it works very well, but sometimes...

    There is always at least 1 that only delivers partial or sub-par work and wants full payment anyway. They promise to do better next time. Now I am not out any money, becuse I only pay full in advance for those that have a good track record with me. But it still drives me nuts!

    It usually goes something like:

    • Details of work and payment are agreed upon
    • A partial down payment is made
    • Work is delivered for review
    • Upon review, work is not complete
    • I inform sub-contractor of missing elements
    • Sub-contractor asks for full payment anyway, and promisses to do better next time. Says he should be paid because he tried.
    • I ask for completed work beofre making additonal payment
    • Sub-contractor ask for full payment and promisses to do better next time
    • Repeat last 2 items n-times until I give up and stop responding to them


    This issue always comes up for me with sub-contratcors from a specific country. Why do they think that I would pay for anything less then full completion of our agreement/contract?

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    Welcome to the "poor quality sub-contractor" zone.

    Good subs are hard to find ... especially 1's that are "quality oriented".

    After telling the sub to do the work agreed upon before the final payment will be made a # of times ... I'd stop responding to the sub as well. That shows them your serious about the agreement made between you 2.
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    sub-contractors from a specific country. Why do they think that I would pay for anything less then full completion of our agreement/contract?
    Could be a cultural issue. Maybe it's standard practice there for bidders to throw in a few "requirements" that are actually just extras. And equally standard practice for contractors to ignore 'em.
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    Ouch, sounds like you've done the right thing by cutting them off. If they want full payment without any intention of completing the job it's clear they don't care about your ROI or client loyalty. Hopefully they've got a profile on some freelance site where you can give them a poor rating.

    - Scott
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    I have a great developer, just let me know if you would like to try him out. Always OnTime and On Budget with support for the lifetime of project a click away (also phone But i use MSN Messenger)

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    I owned a service company and the same is true in that field.

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    I am always looking for new good developers that are reasonably priced.

    -Alon

    Quote Originally Posted by netnow22
    I have a great developer, just let me know if you would like to try him out. Always OnTime and On Budget with support for the lifetime of project a click away (also phone But i use MSN Messenger)

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    Outsourced Program Manager paladin's Avatar
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    Jason,
    I see that you sent me a PM, but I cannot open PM's yet. I'll send you my contact info through the website in your sig.

    Alon

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