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    Wiki vs. Blog
    Hi! I've been lurking for a while.... I found this great site because I'm a member of the same Yahoo group that Loxly is....

    I started dabbling in affiliation a few months ago.... nothing major.... just getting my feet wet and studying everything I can get my hands on before holding my nose and taking the big plunge into the deeper waters....

    I have had some success with blogging... I lurves Wordpress.... and I have had some success with making sales and getting great Google rankings for some very good keywords in a short amount of time...

    But I've recently started noticing Wiki's..... Has anyone had any experience with running a profitable Wiki? I have a great new niche site that I hope to launch in the near future. The niche would be well suited to either a blog OR wiki.

    A wiki would allow others to have more input and would save me from some of the writing. However, I'm very hesitant to leave a platform that I am already comfortable with and am having minor success at for a new untried platform. I'm afraid that it will be like a forum in that it will be difficult to lure people to participate. I also know how to monetize a blog.... monetizing a wiki might present a bit more of a challenge.... I can comfortably control links and add pid's in blogs, but wiki's seem to be more of a wild card.

    Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome! Thank you!

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    **waves hi to kayecee**

    Glad to have you over here, and am very interested in hearing responses to this also. I am looking at Wikis too, and would love to hear how affiliates are using them and what I need to provide from the merchants. Does javascript work in Wikis? Bounce.cc should work, can you pull in and format rss feeds to a wiki?

    Research for this weekend!
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    *sniffs pits* *checks breath* Dang girl! How'd you smell me out so quickly! LOL

    To be honest, I have nooooooo idea what Bounce.cc is! I'm pretty sure that javascript works with the wiki installation that I'm experiementing with.... I just wanted to see how easy it is to customize and such so I have one hidden away somewhere.... I've had 2 major site problems this week and haven't been able to play much, though!

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    With all of the continual spam I get on blogs, which I can control to some degree, I can only imagine how completely out of control a wiki would get in short order. It's free form, so that seems like an open invitation to spammers.

    I hate spammers.

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    That's one of my holdbacks..... I know that an administrator can undo vandalism (i.e. someone erases an article completely or slaps up a billion viagra ads) but I'm afraid that I might wind up beating fires out all day, every day..... that's why I wanted feedback from anyone who had attempted a wiki.... I'm wondering if they regretted their decision...

    I'm like you.... I like being able to control the spam I get on blogs.... I've even gotten mad enough at a few harrassing, persistent tormentors that I tracked the little suckers down and reported them to their hosting company, who subsequently shut them down....

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    Although you can have administrative control over your own wiki, it seems as if the participation (the ability for any of your users to edit or add additional material) is an important draw to your wiki [community and readership]. If you limit user participation the wiki's popularity might decline.

    Although I think wikis are great venues for “fan sites” because they would encourage community collaboration, I'm not sure if wikis are the best way to advertise products. Community members/users of a "fansite wicki" are all usually excited about the singer, celebrity, or athlete the wiki focuses upon.
    Google Adsense would work well in a "fan site" wicki.

    wikiHow is an excellent example of various wikis. Wikis seem to do well with Adsense. Check out the examples at wikiHow:
    http://www.wikihow.com/

    I would pick the blog for marketing affiliate items.

    I've showcased affiliate products in my blog and have decided not to publish comments that praise other related competing products. In a blog it's easy to reject the comment [I've had to reject multiple comments as this is a repetitive problem].
    Trying to control multiple viewpoints and multiple changes/additions in a wicki will be very time consuming.

    I don't use Adsense, I prefer to market products (and I see the Adsense as a quick "invititation to leave my site[s]") but if I had a "fan site," a wiki would be a good combination with Adsense.

    Wikis are not about "control," they are collaborative and thus much more profitable with Adsense.

    If you are marketing products, you need a greater authoritative control over your sites.
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    You *can* require wiki contributors to be approved and not just leave it open to the masses. That can probably work on a niche wiki where you can screen your potential posters. Yes, you want to have community participation, but can keep it under control. And just because it is a wiki doesn't make it an "open" resource. You can treat it like any other content management system, but one that is easy to add other contributors to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayecee
    *sniffs pits* *checks breath* Dang girl! How'd you smell me out so quickly! LOL

    To be honest, I have nooooooo idea what Bounce.cc is!
    lol, you just happened to post when I was hanging out for a few minutes last night.

    Go to http://www.bounce.cc and check it out. It converts plain links to a merchant into affiliate trackable links, without you doing the converting It's cool and would be perfect for an affiliate marketing wiki.
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    if i were you i'd start up both and advertise the wiki but work on the blog daily...
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    Quote Originally Posted by loxly
    Go to http://www.bounce.cc and check it out. It converts plain links to a merchant into affiliate trackable links, without you doing the converting It's cool and would be perfect for an affiliate marketing wiki.
    If the merchant had not previously supplied affiliate links, how do I know that clicks from my site will track? Or if a merchant is not an advertiser on a 3rd party affiliate network that I belong to as a publisher?

    How do I know that the merchant will honor the links which have been converted into "affiliate trackable links?"

    How do I know that a merchant wants to engage in an affiliate relationship?

    Will bounce.cc work for any site? How about Steinway & Sons pianos?
    You mean I can go to http://www.steinway.com/ and convert any links into "affiliate trackable links?" Yippee, some hefty commissions could come from the sales at Steinway & Sons
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    Quote Originally Posted by loxly
    You *can* require wiki contributors to be approved and not just leave it open to the masses ... You can treat it like any other content management system, but one that is easy to add other contributors to.
    Yes, I know administrative control could take care of those issues, but convincing other contributors that if they write about affiliate products there's something in it for them is the tricky part: the (motivation) might be more difficult [especially if the affiliate links are registered in my account ]

    I saw a number of examples of wikis at wikiHow that could have been devoted to affiliate product links but left the "marketing" to Google Adsense.
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    Lots and lots of good points here.... I'll be thinking about this more over the weekend.... I would like the partnership and teamwork of a wiki in theory.... in reality, the blog is easier to be the Mistress of the Universe over....

    Loxly.... thanks for the Bounce.... I've scribbled that down on muh gabillioneth post-it and shall attempt to check them out this weekend....

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    Rhia7, obviously bounce will only work for merchants that have an affiliate program and are registered with bounce AND that you are an affiliate for. Go to the bounce site and you will see the information there. Also, Michael has information about bounce.cc in his Suluta forum.

    http://forum.abestweb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=401
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