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August 11th, 2007, 03:31 AM #1SiteAdvisor shows merchant as "spammy"
I started to click on the "contact merchant" link in my SAS account but feel like it isn't my place to ask them why they are showing as "spammy" and what they plan to do about it..
SiteAdvisor also shows them as being linked to some unsavories. Is there anyone at SAS that handles things like this? My concern is that some folks do use SiteAdvisor and won't shop there. Don't know if SiteAdvisors findings are used by any of the new security features on browsers either(?) that would cut back on shoppers as well.
August 11th, 2007, 07:12 AM #2
- Join Date
- January 18th, 2005
- St Clair Shores MI.
Google (Microsoft) MSN and now the Yahoo PPC Advisory folks all are on board with www.StopBadware.org seeking out junk and malicious traffic spammers. Those millions with www.SiteAdvisor.com installed are the single most effective source for enduser SERP and PPC complaints and "Test this site" inquiries. Let's just call them "outraged victims" of aggressive affiliate/publisher spammers seeking any means to set commission cookies or PPC click and BHO infestation fees.
SAS and other affiliate network merchants seek out and prize successful affiliate spam operations often calling them Super Affiliates. They confuse traffic manipulators with traffic originators.
All the major SE's running PPC get to view aggregrate data from SERP/PPC click interaction with landing pages. They take note of the amount of time and site nav depth those searchers have with the landing pages. Then use the aggregrate data to quality score the links and the landing pages. Problem is they don't get to look under the landing pages that exploit their searchers with browser BHO hijacks, spyware bugs and deceptive e-mail spam traps. SiteAdvisor does.
Sure Google and a few other SE's give great credence to Siteadvisor RED Flag landing pages or they wouldn't block/Ban domains from getting ANY click traffic directly from their free or paid links. They compare Siteadvisor results with their own QC data mining and hit the "do not send traffic" button.
Amazingly, as they sit back and listen to blacklisted site owners plead to get unblocked they uncover the majority are just thin affiliate sites. Who other then affiliates and MFA or "get paid to ??? types would try to game the link system? They've been gaming the affiliate network cookie system for years and all affiliates get tainted by the stench.
The SE's see with Analytics and data mining, like I do, where the traffic influencer/manipulator generates a steady flow of 5 second visitors with 100% bounce rates. You can bet the OUT these sources to the SiteAdvisor and StopBadware.org team to get them to shut down these internet pollutors. Small wonder many turn out to be e-mail spammers too.
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August 11th, 2007, 07:25 AM #3Originally Posted by 2busy
August 12th, 2007, 09:47 AM #4
I have more than a few links to these folks, they are my best converting merchant and have been in business online for nearly a decade. I really do not think they are suddenly "bad guys", they were clean last month. I did notify them via the "Contact" link and they have taken no action but I don't know if they have received the message either. I see that one of the links shown in the McAfee report is Whizmail.cc. Has anyone heard of Whizmail?
August 12th, 2007, 10:29 AM #5Originally Posted by 2busy
Just my 2 cents, but contacting the merchant is the right thing to do so that can address the problem.
August 12th, 2007, 12:13 PM #6
You are right about possibly losing my own traffic as well, kse. Either way, that's what does matter.
August 13th, 2007, 12:41 PM #7
I called the merchant today, he said he hasn't seen the message I sent him through SAS (probably because he hasn't logged in) but he knew nothing about any spam and seemed quite upset about having been found "spammy". He had never heard of Site Advisor, did not know that Windows Security does similar things. I have not quit the merchant yet but links are down.
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