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    Anyone know what is going on at Linkconnector? In the last 7 days I have had 4 merchants close their programs. I was on participating in 27 programs so to see 4 close up within a week seems like I am dealing with Commission Junction where I see 4 or more a week on a regular basis.

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    Hi, actually I was one of the merchants (Grooming Lounge) who left Link Connector and went to Performics instead. As an affiliate manager they make it very difficult to reach your affiliates and they just did a program shift to not include the Naked Links in the Self Managed Program. So myself and I assume others saw the writing on the wall and left as the price/service expecation was not attractive anymore. The other issues I saw was that they had some prior history with an ABW forum and never really heard what was said so i leave it at that.

    Personally, I found them very nice to work with and it was just a decision to change course versus anything else to maximize the affiliate program.

    My 2 cents!

    Michael Vorel

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    As a fairly new Merchant on Linkconnector, I can say that I have had nothing but a POSITIVE experience with them! My account rep is Wes Carnes and he has been instrumental in my account setup and aquiring affiliates. The account changes actually benefited me as I meet the monthly minimums for the co-managed account.

    I would be interested to hear about other AM's experience with them as well.

    Sandee
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    i wish affiliates can delete inactive websites.

    Once add the URLs, i cannot delete them from profile ?

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    I would check with your account rep, they are very helpful.

    Sandee
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    Hi Vrindavan,

    Thanks for your post. We removed the URLs you requested. In the future please send the URLs you wish removed from your account to Affiliates at LinkConnector.com. Here's wishing you many dollars earned with LinkConnector.

    Thank you for your business!

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    The other issues I saw was that they had some prior history with an ABW forum and never really heard what was said so i leave it at that.
    I can sum it all up for you in a nutshell, real quick.

    1) Many folks around here didn't appreciate the hard-core, hard-sell sales pitches being handed out. Clue: people like to be "communicated with" at forums, not "aggressively marketed to" with pre-written speeches that sound like telemarketing pitches coming out of a Las Vegas boiler room.

    2) Many folks around here aren't clueless pigeons and didn't appreciate the hot and heavy BS being handed out about how the "Naked Links" were a benefit for affiliate sites in the search engines. That is a bunch of horsehockey and some folks were very resentful at being treated like morons.

    3) The following is the real biggie:
    they just did aprogram shift to not include the Naked Links in the Self Managed Program
    the price/service expecation was not attractive anymore
    No doubt the expectation was that the "Naked Links" give search engine link juice to the merchant sites, which was the hard-core sales pitch being used to bring merchants on board. It got toned down on their site after they got ripped a new one, and made it more subtle and IMHO far less straightforward, if you get my drift.

    Many folks around here aren't stupid enough to get duped into giving direct links that will give the merchants (who are competitors in search engines) an unpaid advantage to help the merchants rank above their own affiliate sites, and pump PageRank to the merchant's site rather than their own pages.

    Some folks around here can spot a link brokering scheme in a NY minute, regardless of what the "network" wants to call it when it's being marketed. Affiliates get paid only for sales, but do not get paid a dime for giving away free "Naked Links" for merchants to rank better at the engines engines. However, the "network" sure enough gets their fees, don't they?

    they just did a program shift to not include the Naked Links in the Self Managed Program
    Of course! So the acquisition and maintenance price of the paid links just went up and are no longer cost-effective. Simple as that.

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    Hi - and welcome

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    Webworker, that was a perfect summation.
    Continued Success,

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    I remember the old posts and avoided them.

    But someone I liked and trusted started working at LC. I was conflicted.

    Then they took a few of us to Revolution at The Mirage (off topic: it was a hi roller lounge/I stuck $100 in a machine... and it wasn't enough for a bet!!)

    And I met everyone at the company, including the CEO, the programmers and the reps. Three ABWers quized them and grilled them. And all 3 of us were convinced they weren't evil. In fact, I found them nice, approachable, and knowledgeable.

    Since joining, they work with me at every level. I don't get generic "New campaign: Viagra" emails. I get personal emails that say "Billy, we got 3 new clients who we think will work on your personalized gift site"

    Does CJ do that?

    And they make custom banners and landing pages for me. So I have no complaints.

    In the make links section, you're given a choice between naked links and standard links, so that shouldn't be a problem anymore.

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    As for the original q of this thread - merchants leaving, there's a post on their main page after logging in:

    Fresh Approach with Merchant Campaigns
    Thank you for earning with the LinkConnector Network! We take pride in the quality of our network and work to offer our merchants and affiliates the highest level of support and technology. In order to meet these goals, LinkConnector has set new service level requirements for their merchants which will be fully enacted by September 1.

    LinkConnector Affiliates should enjoy the new commitments from the merchants that continue with the network and create new competitive campaigns to better answer affiliate needs. During the next few days a number of merchants will expire old campaigns, and, in most cases, re-launch replacement campaigns. You’ll be seeing emails from these merchants on these particulars.

    As always, please ask LinkConnector Affiliate Relations your questions and certainly present your needs so that we can address them. Thank you for your business!

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    Webworker, excellent summary! I don't have hard feelings towards LC (they were very nice to work with) and agree with your perspective from both an affiliate and affiliate manager viewpoint. The Naked Link concept sounds great to the merchant and that is why I had to give it a try to see if it would generate incremental seo benefits. Personally we didn't see an improvement in inbound link counts so my feeling is that it it may be something that sounds much better on paper than reality. However, I also don't feel that a naked link harms an affiliate in any way as it still registers the sale just like other network linking methods. The reality is that search engines know how to skip affiliate links so have to hand it to Link Connector as a novel approach for differentiation among affiliate networks.

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by vastplanet
    However, I also don't feel that a naked link harms an affiliate in any way as it still registers the sale just like other network linking methods. The reality is that search engines know how to skip affiliate links so have to hand it to Link Connector as a novel approach for differentiation among affiliate networks.

    Michael
    Except that isn't true. Their system required (not sure if it still does and don't really care) a mix of javascript and refer data enabled, which (can't find my post, did they get killed when they removed their forum) I researched and found for some sites could make a major impact.

    Also don't state the SEs skip affiliate links as fact, they skip duplicate content.

    Chet

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    Hi Chet, not stating fact just personal observations in using the system for 3 months as others may find completely different results. For SE skipping affiliate links of course depends on link structure of the link itself so I agree with you.

    FYI - Here is a Naked Link code that an LC affiliate would paste:
    <a href="http://www.mygroomsmengifts.com" >XYZ Gifts<img src="http://www.linkconnector.com/traffic_record.php?lc=014409009515002543" border="0" width="1" height="1"></a>

    which results in hyper link that says XYZ Gifts on the affiliate page

    When the affiliate clicks on the link and goes to Merchant it than sees a code on the landing page and registers the transfer/affiliate link. When they check out of the store another code was included in the order confirmation to acknowledge the sale.

    I will look through my records and identify the landing page code, you have me curious as the breakdown of that part ...

    Michael

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    Michael, what you are showing is just traffic tracking - which of course if google really penalized affiliates, they could see the webbug... but ignoring that because that just gives you info on your affiliates, that doesn't help them make money.

    What helps the makes money is on your homepage.

    And that is this...

    Code:
    <script language='javascript' src='http://www.linkconnector.com/member/JS/traffic_link_client.php?mid=4602&cid=2543'></script>
    Which requires the user to accept to have refer information on, must cleary pass that information and then load their javacript in your header. Which when i checked, was more of a problem for some verticals than others, but did have some impact for all.

    Do you understand the difference between the two? One of the issues I had with linkconnector was their continuous attempts to confuse issues and a general lack of clarity on their own technology.

    Chet

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    Hi Chet, obviously you are well versed in this issue so have to rely on you for your technical expertise. Interesting conversation and way to be on the cutting edge of affiliate technology.
    Cheers,
    Michael

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