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September 7th, 2007, 11:43 PM #1Page Size
What do you think about these page sizes? Is page size still important now that most people use broadband to access the Internet?
- Up to 10K
September 7th, 2007, 11:51 PM #2
I don't think there's any noticeable difference in load time with any of the page sizes you mentioned, thanks to high speed Internet.
I do often wonder though if it's better to have 5 blog posts on the main page, or 10.
September 7th, 2007, 11:55 PM #3Originally Posted by RickPlmr
I think on one of my blogs I set the # to 13 (partly for symbolic reasons)
Some people don't mind a little scrolling -- some don't link to hunt for info on other pages
The reason I set my blog entries to slightly more than 10 is that I think the variety of posts are inviting and the posts possibly inspire the viewer/reader to look around?
I like to trap my brother's girlfriend in front of a computer and ask her usability questions
She once said she didn't mind some scrolling as long as it wasn't too much -- the trick is to define how much scrolling down of a web page is too much?
September 8th, 2007, 12:03 AM #4Originally Posted by RickPlmr
I manually create the websites with Dreamweaver MX and Photoshop. I don't know how to automate the process on the fly -- and one of the things I enjoy doing for each product I promote is to write something original about each product if I can.
I've been adding on more "sidebar banners" from different merchants and I see that doing so can add to the page's "weight" so I wondered about downloading/response time.
I've been creative with banner placement lately but sometimes I wonder from a download point of view and an aesthetic viewpoint what should be the limit of banners per page?
Last edited by Rhia7; September 8th, 2007 at 12:26 AM.
September 8th, 2007, 12:10 AM #5Originally Posted by RickPlmr
On the other hand, if you've cultivated an audience who waits with bated breadth for the next blog entry, a limit of entries on the page might give the blog a psychological impact. It depends on the blog & its topic.
If you are creating a story you might want to limit blog entries.
If the blog's purpose is mainly to sell products, why limit the entries to 5?
People are more patient in terms of clicking an archive link to brush up on a "story" than they are to see what other widgets you're trying to sell to them
A "story" can have "soap opera-like elements" but that's not the only type.
If for example, you are really talented at some type of home improvement --all the steps that it takes to do the particular improvement combine into a story and limiting the entries to the blog would not be a "turn off" it would inspire people who are really interested to go through your archives --something similar to that can be applied to many types of topics.
Also I think this rule applies to selling things on blogs and the blog entries that appear visible at one time:
If you sell products $60 and below then show lots of entries (i.e. 10)
If you sell products $75 & up, limit the amount of visible entries
The amounts between $60 & $75 are "gray areas"
The topic of the blog also defines what should be shown in how many entries.
Last edited by Rhia7; September 8th, 2007 at 12:38 AM.
September 8th, 2007, 12:30 AM #6Originally Posted by RickPlmr
When should nuance of design be sacrificed to a lesser quality copy of the photo/picture in order to optimize download time?
Last edited by Rhia7; September 8th, 2007 at 12:41 AM.
September 8th, 2007, 12:48 AM #7
So when are one of you guys going to write something?
September 8th, 2007, 01:10 AM #8
So when are one of you guys going to write something?
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- Los Angeles
Maybe they're all busy making love or are out partying. There, I wrote something.
September 8th, 2007, 01:11 AM #9
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How much caffeine have you had tonight?
All those page sizes are fine That's all I'm saying.
September 8th, 2007, 01:18 AM #10
it's hard to follow that post on a friday night WW but,
Rhia your asking about pages size and some of my images are larger than that as part of the page ;-)
I just finished a site with a huge flash header for a client...the flash header alone was 300k...I don't fully believe the stats i saw backing up that 90% some percent of the visitors were going to be high speed, but the site is already producing for them ;-) I just tested the total load time at about 7 seconds including the flash anything over 20-30 seconds and your playing with fire.
September 8th, 2007, 08:45 AM #11Originally Posted by Rhia7
"Generally, you should create Web pages no longer than two screens of information. This guideline is based on the fact that most people find reading and remembering the context of information beyond two screens difficult."
September 8th, 2007, 08:55 AM #12
Sorry, but I wouldn't put much trust in what a book has to say about Internet trends. Even if it was published just last month, the author probably wrote it a few months ago... and it's probably already outdated.
September 8th, 2007, 08:59 AM #13
Actually, I thought mrbshouse & Lanadili had interesting takes on the situation.
As for caffeine, there is nothing more stimulating than a post from RickPlmr -- his question about blog entries gave breadth and depth to the basic question about page size
[I thrive on snappy banter -- I've been in situations where someone says something and that is followed immediately by something interesting from someone else -- I am in perpetual pursuit of snappy banter]
September 8th, 2007, 09:00 AM #14
I've been ripping banners off my sites as time permits - and have removed them completely from my main money-making site. Conversions have gone up considerably on that site - all from text links embedded in the articles I write.
I think sidebar banners are either ignored by many users, or make them feel like you're trying to sell them something.
For usability testing, I like to watch what other popular sites do. I've trimmed my main page down to 5 posts based on what I see on a lot of other sites.
September 8th, 2007, 09:04 AM #15Originally Posted by Rhia7
September 8th, 2007, 09:04 AM #16Originally Posted by RickPlmr
Do banners have a decorative effect or no?
September 8th, 2007, 09:09 AM #17
Depends on the banner, but I think that what _I think_ is decorative will probably be interpreted as annoying or "salesy" to a visitor. I especially thought banners were decorative a year ago when I started in this business... I figured "wow, people will LOVE my site with all these cool looking Adobe banners all over the place". But I never sold a single product from Adobe.
I only have blogs or forums with articles, but I would think static pages should be limited to one single topic per page. (clearly an unqualified answer that others with more experience in this area could answer better).
September 8th, 2007, 09:10 AM #18Originally Posted by RickPlmr
One situation: I signed with a niche merchant because his product is loosely related to a main topic of mine and I want to write essays on how the general product he carries influenced this topic but I haven't written the essays yet.
I put a "vert banner size link featuring one of his products" that fits into my secondary column and people have clicked on it -- that's better than giving that merchant zero exposure.
September 8th, 2007, 09:12 AM #19
True, and I'm probably on the other side of the pendulum swing where I've ripped them all off and have seen conversions go up. I'd rather have consistent sales from text links than an occasional sale from a banner link.
September 8th, 2007, 09:17 AM #20Originally Posted by Rhia7
Originally Posted by Rhia7
September 8th, 2007, 09:19 AM #21Originally Posted by Rhia7
And is that exposure you're giving him coming at the expense of conversions from text links in your article?
I think it's the combined additive effect of everything on your page that puts the visitor into a "sounds great, I'm ready to buy" vs "fine, I'll click but I'm suspiscious" attitude (which doesn't convert very often).
Not that banners always take away from that, but it seems to be the case more often than not for me.
September 8th, 2007, 09:26 AM #22Originally Posted by RickPlmr
Originally Posted by RickPlmr
I'd like magical powers so that I could create web pages as fast as my thoughts think of them. I create pages/sites on a variety of topics -- and I plan to fulfill each idea (it just takes a while).
To include banners or not to include -- that is the question. The whole thing is just trial and error and reminds me of a Clash song
September 8th, 2007, 09:33 AM #23Originally Posted by RickPlmr
Plus there's usually a lesson to be learned behind the laughter.
P.S. It is interesting posts I am after -- I'm not after people in person
September 8th, 2007, 09:36 AM #24
Thanks - if I don't make _myself_ laugh while I'm writing it, then I sometimes won't even post it.
Work should be fun, right?
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