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    Ok, this is the only forum I frequent, I have learned a lot just by browsing the archives. I guess my only problem is not taking the leap and just going for it. I do have a question though, does anyone use casino programs and, if anyone does how do they work? Are they diffrent?
    Do they pay better? Also does anyone know of any revenue programs to join, I have heard a number of people say those type of site are all they use. Hope my question is detailed enough for everyone.


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    Hard to know how to answer this. Promoting online casinos is very difficult and if you don't already have experience in online marketing and SEO etc., then it's probably not the best place to start.

    There are many other less competitive niches that might be more suited to someone new to the online marketing game.

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    I agree with markymark.
    You would do better to start off with a less competitive market, maybe something you have some interest in or knowledge about. Use your first sites to experiment. When you've found out what works for you, try targetting some revenue terms.

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    As much heat as I'm going to take for saying this, start with a content site with a few affiliate links. Write about your favorite hobby. It's information you're familiar with, so writing about it shouldn't be that hard and you will know what you need to research.

    The products you link to should be directly related to your content. If you're writing about cooking, link to a T-Fal cookware set, for example.

    Several hobbies have merchants that have affiliate programs, just make sure you pick a good merchant or two for your hobby of choice. (Good merchant=allows deep linking to individual products and pays on time and consistenly)

    Once you've gotten your feet wet, start playing hardball.

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    I have been promoting casino for about 4 years now. It is a getting very hard to make money the US goverment is trying to make it illigal and taken away lots of the ways for players to pay to use the casinos and sportsbook. At one time I was making about $20,000 a month now I am only making about $8,000 and every month it decreases.

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    Wow I love that maximized popup.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by weisinator:
    Once you've gotten your feet wet, start playing hardball.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Or just cut to the chase.

    I invested (for which read wasted) two years going down the content + affiliate links route.

    If you consider the pleasure you get from running a site about your hobby/interest as payback, then fine. If you're looking for cash income, it isn't a profitable route.

    Find out what people want to spend money on, then help them find places to spend that money as close as possible to the point they're ready to part with the cash.

    You could give away free recipes for a thousand years to free-recipe-seekers without ever selling a piece of cookware.

    Set up a site for people interested in buying cookware however ...

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    I think an important consideration is that many/most/some (delete according to facts) people in AM build up a network of sites, some of which will be content and some pure sales.

    A good starting place would be a content site with the affiliate links as a side issue (as spacewar and weisinator said) and then promote it as hard as you can (without spending much money).

    For example, "Fleetwood's World of Gnomes" with articles on everything you know about garden gnomes, some photos of gnomes, a free gnome classified section, a gnome discussion board, some eBay/Amazon/general affiliate links to gnome products etc. Content sites can get listed in the Open Directory and are fairly easy to get links for.

    Alternatively, buy an expired domain with good residual PageRank and/or traffic and give yourself a head start (more expensive though).

    It's a little bit like the advice given to budding novelists.. write what you know about. If you're starting off in affiliate marketing, try to stick to that to begin with

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    Online Casinos ??? ...its slowly dying ...i woudnt recommend it to anyone

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    Yes, casinos are a good example of what NOT to promote. It's easier to be Google's #1 match for "garden gnomes" than it is "casino."

    They say there are no prizes for coming second. Well, there certainly aren't any prizes for coming ten thousand and second as you'd do competing there.

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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dynamoo:
    It's a little bit like the advice given to budding novelists.. write what you know about. QUOTE]

    ...but then, most budding novelists don't get published. The advice given to people who want to earn a living from their writing is ... write what people want to read

    Anyway, I'm going to stop telling people what it took me two years to learn - we all learn best by making our own mistakes

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>we all learn best by making our own mistakes <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    Amen to that.. whatever way you try you'll find that making money to begin with is damned hard, but eventually it will all click into place.

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    I don't think making a content site is a mistake. It's a great way to get your feet wet.

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    First off, thanks for all the advice. I think my problem is that I feel like I have no ideas on what to sell. I know everyone keeps saying go with what I know but I feel what I know wouldn't sale. Thats why I want to promote a revenue site or sales page. Does anyone promote just a sales page? I feel like if I can get that ball rolling more will come.

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    If you're having trouble deciding what to sell, write down everything you can think of on a piece of paper in small print, tack it to a dartboard and throw.

    Doing one site that will make no more than $50/month is better than doing zero sites for $0.

    Just remember: page a day, site a month.

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    What about ebooks?

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    Are you still thinking?
    All have told you right, the casion sites are hard to be promoted competition is tough. Most people at begining think common topic but being in 10 in common topic is hard.
    The best place in searc is in 1-10 because it is where user click.
    I have created both content sites and just product sites, both work for me. So if you can't find content don't worry make simply product site. some network have individual product link so make a site from them. But one site is not enought as above someone suggested one page pery day and one site per month is real success.
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    Fleetwood: I don't know anyone who buys e-books. In order to make money at something, people have to buy it. In my own experience, I find that I have less eye-strain when it's on paper. I've bought print versions of books that are free on the web.

    Pick something you're interested in and start selling. If you are interested in the product/activity, then you'll be more interested in building a site about it. When you get that first taste of money, then you want more and are more willing to take risks.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fleetwood413:
    First off, thanks for all the advice. I think my problem is that I feel like I have no ideas on what to sell. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Fleetwood,

    First of all welcome to ABW. Let me help you.

    Step 1.

    Go here and sign up to our program: http://www.tigerdirect.com/sectors/Affiliate/index.asp

    Step 2.

    Add this link to your website: http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/kb/promo.asp?ID=KBID


    That's a good start, let me know if i can be of assistance !!

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    Ok, I have just learned the basics of HTML. What is CGI?

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    Common Gateway Interface. Think of it as a program that takes what variables you input, and spits HTML out to the browser.

    I say stick with HTML and build an affiliate site and begin building traffic before you start playing with server side coding.

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    PHP?

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    Fleetwood413 - PHP is a language to write CGI programs like perl .

    Let me give you a honest advise...first create some basic html pages targeting less competitive industries/keywords ... try if you can get good ranks...if you can risk some money buy some Google adword traffic...

    Everybody have a learning curve...the only way to win is to learn as you go...

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    Don't remember what PHP stands for, but it's like CGI, just more "natural" syntax and easier database connectivity.

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