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    If You Play The Florida Lottery you may want to read this...
    I'm making this post here, because I know we have many Floridian that read ABW.

    When they use to have a regular and reliable local broadcast of the drawing live on TV, I liked to watch those numbers come out live, but since lately the local channels sometimes replay the numbers a few seconds or minutes later at their time, and not really live, I usually just check the numbers on the official Florida Lottery Home Page after midnight.

    But I can no longer trust the official Florida Lottery Home Page results posted there, at least not for the first 24hrs after the numbers came out.

    Long ago I used to print that page results to check my tickets later or the next morning, but since I was wasting ink and paper unnecessarily everyday, I decided to just write the numbers down on a piece of paper.

    Well, a few times in the last few months, I notice that the numbers that I have written on the piece of paper a few hours earlier, didn't match with the numbers I heard on the radio later on the next day, so every time when I went back to the official Florida lottery home page, and see that the numbers on the radio was right, and that I have wrote the wrong numbers, I thought that maybe I was doing something stupid, like getting the wrong date results, etc. (YES, I also thought the same thing you might be thinking)

    But, I was never wrong, and now I even regret the few times when I have said that the radio announcer was stupid, for announcing the wrong numbers in the morning, because now I know that they too, may have reliably announced the first results they saw on the official Florida lottery home page, before the official Florida lottery home page changed their wrong posted numbers later, to the correct numbers drawn.

    Ok, some people reading this so far, may say or think "WTF is all this about, and why do I even care."

    Well, I believe that a lot of people here may play the lottery, maybe not necessarily the Florida lottery, but this can as well apply to any other State lottery.

    For Saturday, September 22, 2007, the real Fantasy 5 Results was 2-3-19-26-35, but at about 9:00 am on Sunday, September 23, 2007, when I got the numbers from the official Florida lottery home page, the wrong number they had there was 2-3-16-26-35.

    Yes, I know that the number 6 and the number 9 are just exactly the same number that can be flip over on a door by accident, if it got one nail missing, (by the way, I saw that movie too) but I never thought that whomever is posting on the official Florida lottery home page the results, would make a simple mistake like that, so now I wonder about those other times when all of the numbers they have first posted were wrong, and no one else noticed.

    So what is the big deal if we're all just humans, and we all make mistakes once in a while?

    That is a good question!

    It might, or may not be a big deal for those that like me, that don't throw right away the tickets, after they just saw, or heard the results the first time somewhere, but it may be a real big deal, for those that might believe the first results they see or hear, if the source of those results, come from some of the messengers they used to trust.

    So what do I win or lose by making this post?

    That is another good question!

    Well, I usually keep my losing tickets a few days before I throw them out, don't ask me why I do that, because before yesterday I would probably had responded that, because I might be waiting for a consolation price on l losing tickets, like it have been done before on many places, but if you ask me now, I would say that unless I see the numbers live on TV, I would definitely never throw them out until I am sure that I have not won anything.

    Here is the kicker, and some may say that I should be happy with the results, but what if.....................

    According to the first results I saw, I say to myself (), I only got two numbers this time, at least I am going to get a free ticket back but, when I went to get my free ticket, I was paid $10.50, because I had three numbers instead of just two.

    Being the stupid honest guy that I still am so far, I started to argue that it have to be a mistake somewhere, because I only had two winning numbers on that ticket, well..... not until they show me a printout from the terminal, with the real actual winning numbers, that I realized what was going on with the discrepancy between the numbers I first saw on the official Florida lottery home page, the numbers on my ticket, and the real numbers from the terminal printout ticket.

    But, what if I had all the five winning numbers, but after seeing the first results I saw, I would had throw that ticket away.

    That's something to think about.


    And now I also wonder if sometime in the past, I may have thrown away a big price winning ticket . Specially when I remember that once in a while, they have announced that there are some unclaimed lottery tickets, and that the ticket holder for that price have just a few more days to claim the price, before they add that unclaimed price to the regular jackpot.

    This post may sound like I am bashing the official Florida lottery home page, but since they say that "The Florida Lottery's mission is to maximize revenues for the enhancement of public education in Florida." and since I have been helping to maximize revenues for the enhancement of public education in Florida almost everyday since the Florida Lottery first came out (for almost twenty years), I believe I have the right to make this post, maybe not in here, but since this money related and we have Floridians here, I don't see why not. But if it bother anyone here, they know what they should do then.

    BTW, I don't made all this up, here is the prove:
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    FL is just practicing up for when they do the election results next time

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    Leader,

    LMAO!!!!

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    Don't you realize that the lottery is just a tax on people who are bad at math?
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    I'm so grateful to everyone who plays the New York lottery.

    You help keep my taxes down. Somewhat. I mean, this is New York State.

    You can't win if you do play -- but I can.

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    Okay, I gotta share this story.

    At the closing for the house I bought in Florida, I realized that I'd just signed a document that I'd make myself available to sign any documents that I might not have signed when I turned to my lawyer and said, "Hey, what's with this huge stack of paperwork? I've bought houses before but I never had to sign this much paperwork!"

    She replied, "Where are you from again?"

    I said, "Connecticut."

    She said, "You're not in Connecticut anymore. This is Florida. Any scam that wasn't invented here was perfected here. That's why you have to sign so many documents to buy a house."

    House. Lottery. Elections. Crime. Education. Environment. Development. It's just Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sal
    ...Well, I usually keep my losing tickets a few days before I throw them out, don't ask me why I do that, ...
    There is a very good reason to keep losing tickets, from any state lottery. Federal tax rules allow you to deduct gambling losses up to the amount of gambling winnings, in computing your taxable income. So, should you have a winning ticket that gets you any reported lottery payout (every payout of $600 or more) and you've kept those losing tickets as proof, you can deduct the total loses for that year from your winnings and your taxable income is only the net winnings.
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    Don't you realize that the lottery is just a tax on people who are bad at math? - Coley
    Too true.

    You help keep my taxes down. Somewhat. I mean, this is New York State. - Rhea
    LOL. Yeah. My property taxes are like nothing. LOL. I was actually looking at a $149,000 house 2 weeks ago, annual property taxes were $6000. Just ridiculous.

    Imagine what that would look like without smokers, gas guzzlers, and lottery afficianados...
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    Thank You for your investigative reporting Mr. Sal.. Although I do not regularly play the lottery, I have lot's of family members who do. My mother plays just about every Wednesday, and my mother in law plays on Wednesdays and Saturdays religiously.

    I'll have to warn them of Mr. Sal's findings... I would hate for one of them to have a winning lottery ticket in their possession and just throw it away thinking that they had lost their dollar and their dream for that week.

    I don't know what's going on over at Fla Lottery Headquarters, but I find it hard to believe that this sort of thing is just happening due to innocent human error. Perhaps their intentions are to make people believe they lost so that they can just keep the jackpot loot.

    Another thing I noticed over the past couple years is that the Florida Lottery jackpot always seems to grow to an enormous figure right around Christmas time, usually starts growing in November. Could it be just a coincidence?

    If it grows to an astronomical figure again this year, I'll be pretty darned sure that it's malicious and intentional.

    Anyways, good find Mr. Sal....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffiliateOutlook
    ...Perhaps their intentions are to make people believe they lost so that they can just keep the jackpot loot.

    Another thing I noticed over the past couple years is that the Florida Lottery jackpot always seems to an enormous figure right around Christmas time, usually starts growing in November....
    It doesn't work that way. The jackpots grows because if there are no big winners, the money rolls over to the next drawing. There is no way for the state to "just keep the jackpot loot".

    However, the bigger the jackpot, the more people spend on tickets, to try for "the big one". So more roll-overs do influence higher ticket sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AffiliateHound
    more roll-overs do influence higher ticket sales.
    My point exactly.... I didn't mean that they would actually keep the money themselves, as I'm pretty sure at least that is regulated..

    Quote Originally Posted by AffiliateHound
    It doesn't work that way.
    By the way, I know how the FL Lottery works AffiliateHound, I live in Miami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelColey
    Don't you realize that the lottery is just a tax on people who are bad at math?
    I have heard that the Lottery is a form of over taxation of the poor. There's allot to substantiate that comment, especially here in good ole' FL..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Affiliate Hound
    It doesn't work that way. The jackpots grows because if there are no big winners, the money rolls over to the next drawing. There is no way for the state to "just keep the jackpot loot".
    But what happens when a winning ticket exists (there is a big winner) but it's never claimed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leader
    But what happens when a winning ticket exists (there is a big winner) but it's never claimed?
    I don't know about Florida, but in California, unclaimed winnings go to the California Department of Education. When the lottery was first proposed in Ca. it got its most important support due to a large share of the profit being earmarked for education, and in the years since, they've publicized the fact that 50+% of the take goes to payouts, 34+% to education, and no more than the remaining 16%, or slightly less, goes to advertising, administration, printing, and other costs.
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    My chemistry teacher in high school explained to me a good theory and I've always followed it. Have you ever noticed that certain numbers appear during a 30 day cylcle than others? Mr. A (Teacher Guy) explains it as "they rotate in different balls every 30 days, and the paint on the ball is never even, thus slightly weighted down, which eliminates those balls from appering often in the cycle and allowing certain ones to appear more ofter." So, what do you think of this.

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    Even if that's true, it's not going to be enough to move the odds enough to make it a good risk. Just look at the theoretical payout percentages of various types of gambling. State Lotteries have lower payout percentages than any game in any casino.

    Blackjack: About 99% if played perfectly
    Craps: Up to 98%
    Roulette: About 95%
    Slot Machines: Typically 75-98%
    State Lotteries: Typically 45-60%

    Even with the 99% payout games, you lose money (on average) every time.
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    Well, on September 24th, 2007 when I opened this thread, it was not my intent to bash the official Florida lottery home page, I was just trying to warn those that like me, like to play the lottery at least once in a while to try their luck, regardless of what other people might think or say, about those of us that will still like to play the lottery, even if all can agree that the lottery is another form of taxation of the poor, or that the lottery is for suckers, or for people who are bad at math, or whatever any other negative word is said about the lottery, or about those of us that will still buy a ticket, anytime we feel like it.

    But.............

    They did it again yesterday!

    Real Numbers for 9/27/07 was: 3-7-13-22-34
    But they first posted on The Official Florida Lottery Home Page: 3-7-17-22-34

    So this time I would like to really bash the official Florida lottery home page for incompetence!

    So my dear official Florida lottery home page, all I can say now is that:

    "The Official Florida Lottery Home Page Sucks Big Time!"


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    Some facts from their site: http :// www. floridalottery.com/inet/aboutus-factsMain.do

    On Jul 16, 1987, Former Governor Bob Martinez appoints Rebecca Paul the first permanent secretary of the Florida Lottery. (She only lasted 4 years?)

    On Jan 8, 1991, Former Governor Lawton Chiles appoints Dr. Marcia Mann the second permanent secretary of the Florida Lottery. (She still there after over 16 years so far?)
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    Well, all I can say is that for well over the last decade, there have been something questionable shit going on the Florida Lottery.

    Too many Unclaimed Lottery Tickets!
    Too many Times The Winning Number Posted On The Official Florida Lottery Home Page For The First 12 Hrs, Is Not The Real Winning Number Posted later!
    And many other more shit that I would not care to post here today!

    How-TF, can The Official Florida Lottery Home Page, post some wrong numbers from the real ones, if they main purpose of that site should be to post the real results, and any other promos second?

    How-TF, can anyone else believe what ever else is posted on The Official Florida Lottery Home Page, if when they go there to check what numbers came out a few hours after they came out, they will get a different winning numbers of what the real winning numbers results are?

    I have enough money invested on the Florida Lottery so far, to be able to say that "frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" what you're doing, but don't try to FK with my money, or my intelligence.

    With all the FKNG millions of dollars that the Florida Lottery is getting, they should have at least one reliable person in charge of just posting the real and official Winning Numbers on the spot, or maybe 24 hrs later, but never post a FKNG Wrong number there.

    If on any day I was not able to see the Live Drawing Live On TV, at least I would expect to see what REAL Winning FKNG Numbers that came out that day, and not worry about maybe they have made a mistake.

    On Florida, there are a lot of senior citizens that not only keep the Florida Lottery alive by wasting some amount of their retirement check on the Florida Lottery Tickets, in hope that they might hit the Winning Number one day before they die, but many of them just rely on what The Official Florida Lottery Home Page says it's the real Winning Number, and maybe not because they have an internet and can check their numbers there, but because they rely on what their local radio stations says about what numbers came out last night, even if The Official Florida Lottery Home Page, posted the wrong numbers.

    On Affiliate Marketing, we may have an OPM (Outsource Program Manager), maybe they need an OLRM (Outsource Lottery Results Manager), or something similar!

    But..............

    In the mean time, while I can't longer TRUST The Official Florida Lottery Home Page to see what's going on, I am going to still play a Florida Lottery Ticket, here and there, not because I can say that I will trust them 100% anymore, but because I still believe that "In order to win, you must have a winning ticket", so until I get some of my money back, I think I would just be another stupid gambler, waiting for a miracle or a mistake from the questionable Florida Lottery!

    PS: "The Official Florida Lottery Home Page Sucks Big Time!"

    PPS: Dr. Marcia Mann has been there for over 16 years so far, and to me that's a conflict of interest, so either bring Rebecca Paul back, or get someone else in there, because the way the Florida Lottery is going, M. Lenguisky sounds more like an innocent intern in comparison to Dr. Marcia Mann!

    BTW, I know more about the lottery issues than about any PPC issues, so.... Don't any one try to Fk with my money there, OK? (Please!)

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