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    Unhappy Our home page is gone from Google!
    It was there this morning but now it is gone and I am perplexed.

    A site:www.magazine-agent.com search shows that we have 12,400 pages listed

    A search for Magazine-Agent.com pulls up a random magazine page, as opposed to our home page as it did previously!

    Any ideas?!?
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    Google is doing some shifting at the moment. Talking about it a little here:

    http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3466310-2-30.htm

    Don't know if it has anything to do with that. Don't see your home page either but see your other pages in there.

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    Here's my 60 second analysis.

    It smells like a duplicate content issue, where another one of your pages took it's place.

    Look at this search, which is searching for some text that's unique to your homepage:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...al&btnG=Search

    The first result is this page:
    http://www.magazine-agent.com/superm...omics/magazine

    Take a look at the cache. It's your homepage.
    Go to that URL and you are doing a 302 redirect to the homepage.

    It seems to me that this superman page, that apparently doesn't exist any more, is hijacking your homepage's spot in google. If it and any other page doesn't exist any more, you should probably return a 404 Not Found response. Or at least don't redirect to your homepage.

    Of course it could also be what trust says. That's the thing with google. You never really know.

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    Also notice your home page is PR0.

    http://www.magazine-agent.com/

    And clicking around and the rest look to be gray bar.

    And your backlinks:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=link:...US230&filter=0

    Don't see any outside sites linking to you, just 4 of your own pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust
    Also notice your home page is PR0.

    http://www.magazine-agent.com/

    And clicking around and the rest look to be gray bar.

    And your backlinks:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=link:...US230&filter=0

    Don't see any outside sites linking to you, just 4 of your own pages.
    That's another issue. According to Google's Webmaster tools:
    1) We have 28726 links to our site yet the link: shows almost nothing
    2) " Googlebot last successfully accessed your home page on Jul 31, 2007." yet the cached version of the page in google updated daily and we see hits in our logs every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjangro
    Here's my 60 second analysis.
    Can't imagine what you would have found in 60 minutes

    So we believe that Scott gets the prize. A change in our system caused the 404 function to not fire in certain cases and instead re-direct to the home page with a 302. We do not think this would normally have caused as big a problem BUT we had also recently uploaded a site map where we indicated that the priority of our product pages was higher then our home page. We believe that this caused google to look at the duplicate content and say "hey, they say that page is more important, so we will keep that one, even though nobody links to it...."

    Anyway tweaks have been made and now we wait and see. Thanks Scott & Trust for pointing us in the right direction. Always good to get a fresh set of eyes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhkocatas
    Anyway tweaks have been made and now we wait and see. Thanks Scott & Trust for pointing us in the right direction. Always good to get a fresh set of eyes!
    Good luck with it Reha.

    >> wait and see

    Yeah, you know that's the key. fix and wait.

    People tend to panic (understandably) and change too much.

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    Did you also know that you have 2 title tags on your main page? First one is populated and the second one is empty or full of blank spaces. Just an FYI.

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    Why 404 redirect the superman page.

    Wouldn't it be better to 301 to the homepage?

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    You never want to do a 301 redirect to the home page from another page in a site. A 301 tells the search engine to change a URL to the page it is redirected to. You use a 301 primarily when you are changing the URL from an obsolete URL to a new URL, or when changing domain names. It is also used to standardize a homepage URL to either use the www subdomain or not use it. A 301 indicates a permanent change.

    A 404 code tells search engine spiders that the URL is obsolete (Not Found) and they should remove the URL from their database.
    There's good, fast and cheap. Pick any two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Evangelist
    You never want to do a 301 redirect to the home page from another page in a site. A 301 tells the search engine to change a URL to the page it is redirected to. You use a 301 primarily when you are changing the URL from an obsolete URL to a new URL, or when changing domain names. It is also used to standardize a homepage URL to either use the www subdomain or not use it. A 301 indicates a permanent change.

    A 404 code tells search engine spiders that the URL is obsolete (Not Found) and they should remove the URL from their database.
    What about Page Rank and back links, are they oblivion-ized?

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    Should the 404 be blank or is it ok to go to a custom error page?

    Code:
    ErrorDocument 401 http://www. site .com/error.php
    ErrorDocument 403 http://www. site .com/error.php
    ErrorDocument 404 http://www. site .com/error.php
    ErrorDocument 500 http://www. site .com/error.php

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    I always use a custom error 404 page. The idea is to capture the user, rather than show them a browser's generic error page or a blank page that makes it look like the site is down.

    For my affiliate sites, I typically display a page that shows the top selling products.

    A 301 status code passes PageRank fro the old URL to the new URL. Whether or not inbound link value is passed is not clearly understood.
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    Very nice forum!

    My compliments. I'm an italian reader and your english is simple and easily understanded from me :-)

    Regards,
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    404 - Page not found
    410 - Page gone (forever - don't come back)

    For Apache, in .htaccess (for a 410):

    Redirect gone filename.html
    or
    Redirect gone /filename/
    or
    Redirect gone /directoryname/filename.html

    In .htaccess, to call the custom error document for the browser:

    ErrorDocument 410 kaput.html
    ErrorDocument 404 oops.html

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