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    Taken from opendemocracy.net
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    From the world's most popular novelist, Paulo Coelho, an open letter of praise for President Bush.

    Thank you, great leader George W. Bush.

    Thank you for showing everyone what a danger Saddam Hussein represents. Many of us might otherwise have forgotten that he used chemical weapons against his own people, against the Kurds and against the Iranians. Hussein is a bloodthirsty dictator and one of the clearest expressions of evil in today’s world.

    But this is not my only reason for thanking you. During the first two months of 2003, you have shown the world a great many other important things and, therefore, deserve my gratitude.

    So, remembering a poem I learned as a child, I want to say thank you.

    Thank you for showing everyone that the Turkish people and their parliament are not for sale, not even for 26 billion dollars.

    Thank you for revealing to the world the gulf that exists between the decisions made by those in power and the wishes of the people. Thank you for making it clear that neither José Mar*a Aznar nor Tony Blair give the slightest weight to or show the slightest respect for the votes they received. Aznar is perfectly capable of ignoring the fact that 90% of Spaniards are against the war, and Blair is unmoved by the largest public demonstration to take place in England in the last thirty years.

    Thank you for making it necessary for Tony Blair to go to the British parliament with a fabricated dossier written by a student ten years ago, and present this as ‘damning evidence collected by the British Secret Service’.

    Thank you for allowing Colin Powell to make a complete fool of himself by showing the UN Security Council photos which, one week later, were publicly challenged by Hans Blix, the chief weapons inspector in Iraq.

    Thank you for adopting your current position and thus ensuring that, at the plenary session, the French foreign minister, Dominique de Villepin’s anti-war speech was greeted with applause – something, as far as I know, that has only happened once before in the history of the UN, following a speech by Nelson Mandela.

    Thank you too, because, after all your efforts to promote war, the normally divided Arab nations were, for the first time, at their meeting in Cairo during the last week in February, unanimous in their condemnation of any invasion.

    Thank you for your rhetoric stating that ‘the UN now has a chance to demonstrate its relevance’, a statement which made even the most reluctant countries take up a position opposing any attack on Iraq.

    Thank you for your foreign policy which provoked the British foreign secretary, Jack Straw, into declaring that in the 21st century, ‘a war can have a moral justification’, thus causing him to lose all credibility.

    Thank you for trying to divide a Europe that is currently struggling for unification; this was a warning that will not go unheeded.

    Thank you for having achieved something that very few have so far managed to do in this century: the bringing together of millions of people on all continents to fight for the same idea, even though that idea is opposed to yours.

    Thank you for making us feel once more that though our words may not be heard, they are at least spoken – this will make us stronger in the future.

    Thank you for ignoring us, for marginalising all those who oppose your decision, because the future of the Earth belongs to the excluded.

    Thank you, because, without you, we would not have realised our own ability to mobilise. It may serve no purpose this time, but it will doubtless be useful later on.

    Now that there seems no way of silencing the drums of war, I would like to say, as an ancient European king said to an invader: ‘May your morning be a beautiful one, may the sun shine on your soldiers’ armour, for in the afternoon, I will defeat you.’

    Thank you for allowing us – an army of anonymous people filling the streets in an attempt to stop a process that is already underway – to know what it feels like to be powerless and to learn to grapple with that feeling and transform it.

    So, enjoy your morning and whatever glory it may yet bring you.

    Thank you for not listening to us and not taking us seriously, but know that we are listening to you and that we will not forget your words.

    Thank you, great leader George W. Bush.

    Thank you very much.


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    It appears by your posts that you have no issues with IRAQ leaders and how they treat humans and the regards they have to any human life.

    To each his own on opinion.

    I would suggest you move to IRAQ and praise their leaders for a job well done. Your posts make me sick, but you do have the right to open opinion.

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    Yes and thank you for making another post just to stir up more sheet in here

    It was so cold last winter that I saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DesignerWiz.com Team:
    It appears by your posts that you have no issues with IRAQ leaders and how they treat humans and the regards they have to any human life.

    To each his own on opinion.

    I would suggest you move to IRAQ and praise their leaders for a job well done. Your posts make me sick, but you do have the right to open opinion.

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    I'd like to hear how did you get that result from that article I quoted. If you understood this from that post in that way well yes everybody to his own opionion.


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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I'd like to hear how did you get that result from that article I quoted. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I got the same thing from that letter, particularly where it proclaims that the invading army will be defeated in the morning.

    If you post something like that, you should be ready for people to assume you too are hoping for a US/UK defeat.

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    I read that too and I didnt take it literally, but you can interpret it as you see fit or would like to see. what you reap is what you sow.
    that article indeed has this too;
    "Thank you for showing everyone what a danger Saddam Hussein represents. Many of us might otherwise have forgotten that he used chemical weapons against his own people, against the Kurds and against the Iranians. Hussein is a bloodthirsty dictator and one of the clearest expressions of evil in today’s world"

    Anyway I dont know how the hell I would benefit from a US/UK defeat or I would want that. I want this war be over as soon as possible with the least casualites for both sides as it's the best for the whole world. But if there is a bill to be stamped on someone well it's not me. I didnt cause any of this nor I wanted.


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    Bush and Blair have taken military action while disregarding millions of people in their own and other countries who think this particular war is both morally unjustifiable at this time, and politically stupid.

    They'll fight for democracy but not DO democracy. But that's okay because ... ?

    Help me out here; I must be missing something ...

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Bush and Blair have taken military action<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Bush and Blair represent millions of people. They, by themselves, took no action except to move forward to safegaurd the United States people and others that have been in distress for decades<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>while disregarding millions of people in their own and other countries who think this particular war is both morally unjustifiable at this time, and politically stupid.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>While I DO respect you very highly, and your views just as much, I believe the democratic tally was in the hundreds of thousands worldwide. And, as it MAY be polital suicide on Bush's part, AT THIS TIME it is highly morally justifiable, unless you feel we should leave this rapist, murdering regime to do the US what they stated they would do . . .<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>They'll fight for democracy but not DO democracy. But that's okay because ... ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I DO beleive democratically, that a majority of people, in fact, millions of people all over the world, are standing with the US to see that terrorism is abolished from the planet. I realize war is a TERROR in itself but please do not mistake the efforts are to RID terrorism. If anyone has a better plan, they MISSED the opportunity BEFORE we, the US and our Allies, HAD to move against the aggressors and make the world a safer place to live.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Help me out here; I must be missing something ... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No, Elisabeth, I don't see it as though you and hundreds of thousands of other caring people are missing anything. But it did come to the point that an avoidance of a war on terrorism was not going to be allowed by the terrorists.

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    Some here are totally brainwashed by their stupid administration, CNN, Fox and CNBC. Some posts here by the war mongers show exactly how provincial they are and think. They should know that billions of people ( not millions ) are against terrorists and billions of people are against the war. And they dshould know that it costs the USA billions of $$$ to attac a foreign country without the UN. And they also should know that the USA is even at this time begging all the countries of which they speak so disparaging like France, Canada, Germany, Mexico etc. to help them to rebuilt Iraq after war. The UN has already stated that the USA has to pay for all rebuildings becaus they have attaced Irak without UN mandatory. And what has the adminitration told the UN: we can not afford that. And all that brainwashed here should once for all learn that the war against Iraq has nothing to do with the war against terrorism. Btw. the second largest armee in the war against terrorism are the troops of Germany in Afghanistan - but they have UN mandatory to be there.

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    I think you got it wrong ... the IRAQ's own resources (oil sales) will pay for the war and it's own rebuilding. This is not something the US government is going to absorb as clearly stated by the US government.

    While true we asked for additional help in building the infrastructure up, it's cost will be provided by IRAQ.

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    Golly, these uninformed people being brainwashed by the likes of al-jazeera, Iraqi tv, CBC and their respective country's oil interests are pathetic.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> They'll fight for democracy but not DO democracy. But that's okay because ... ?
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    They are both elected officials with majority support in their respective countries. They are being condemned by millions for bringing democracy to the Iraq.

    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The UN has already stated that the USA has to pay for all rebuildings becaus they have attaced Irak without UN mandatory. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Who cares? We'll pay, we already are.

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    Jimbo2002 .... very true.

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    Since when do you only fight the fight, if everyone agrees with you. You shouldn't fight because you can win, you fight because an injustice has occurred and you can no longer tolerate it.

    Do you have to wait until it is personal to intervene? Bring out your daughter, bring out your son and let the raping begin. Will you intervene then? Why? Love or Hate? You intervene out of love for the victim, not hate of the oppressor. My anger comes from Love of the victim, it also grows to make sure it is stopped, and that rapist does not claim another victim. If you do not intervene, do you prefer ignorance of that act, or are you indifferent? For those that prefer ignorance, shame on you. For those that prefer to be indifferent, shame on you too, but a different type of shame. That is the shame of a coward.

    Rape, murder, torture, intimidation, chemical warfare, terrorist support. Shall I go on? Who is to stop this from happening? Do you think they will stop on their own? Sadam has built his kingdom on the blood of his own people. He has also expressed the desire to continue to build it on the blood of others.

    Ignored during the protests is what Sadam is doing to his people. Why don't the protestors petition Sadam to stop raping and murdering his people? It boggles my mind to listen to protestors that look only in one direction. Please remember, we are only reacting to 13 years of defiance, spitting in the face of the UN. Can someone explain that to me?

    We should have stepped in a long time ago. It is our moral obligation to stop this from happening, weither it is happening on the other side of the world, or in our back yard.

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    Iam Jalouppy:
    your statement is absolutely against the Charta of the UNO and shows only how far the USA and you are out of the family of Nations. 95% of the people in the world are within this family of Nations and you say they all are wrong, and the USA should act against them? This is a stupid, insane, barbaric point of view of people brainwashed by their authorities.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by carneol:
    Iam Jalouppy:
    your statement is absolutely against the Charta of the UNO and shows only how far the USA and you are out of the family of Nations. 95% of the people in the world are within this family of Nations and you say they all are wrong, and the USA should act against them? This is a stupid, insane, barbaric point of view of people brainwashed by their authorities.

    carneol<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    In stead of lashing out and pretending to know my view, can you address my questions? Ignoring my questions does not make them go away.

    Where did you get your 95%? Are you assuming that EVERYONE else in the world disagrees with the war? Last time I checked, more than 1 nation was participating in this war. Regardless of the type of support; military, humanitarian, economical, or spiritual. Why is that?

    I suspect most people (myself included) do not wish to have war, for it is terrible. But find it necessary to curb injustice. I am not in charge over here, so I do not pretend to know all the reasons we are doing this. I rely on my leaders to make those decisions. I can petition them to make decisions all I want, but I would look indifferent if after those decisions are made, I do not support the troops, regardless of my views.

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    lol, round and round, nobody ever changes their opinions on this board. Further proof, I guess, that one must be stubborn, perhaps to the point of combativeness, in order to do well at Affiliate Marketing, lol.

    Oh, and for the record, I'm glad Saddam is getting the @ss kicking of a lifetime right now. It's about time he ended up on the other end of the stick.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> MAY be polital suicide on Bush's part<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I'm sure he and cheney will profit enough from this invasion/war/nationbuilding (haliburton ....) that its worth political suicide on their part - its not like W was any kind of real career politician anyway and cheneys health would prevent him ever being in a position of real power again, so they might as well grab all they can while they can.

    Republicans always make $$ during wartime and the lower-middle class democrats just bury their dead.........same story different war

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    I could be wrong but isn't Bush's approval rating increasing???? How is this political suicide???? I bet 50% of the people protesting don't even vote =P Basically, what you have at these protests are a bunch of hardcore people as the core and then 75% of the rest of them think its a "happening" or feel pressured to go. Many of them have no REAL clue about anything going on now. I'm not saying the protests aren't serious, but many people at them are going simply because its "the thing to do".

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    Way to put it loud and clear..IamJaloppy. I do not feel that terrorists do not know right from wrong. They prefer to not think about it when expload in a crowd of children. Then the really creapy ones smile as they pull the trigger on a woman or child of their supposed enemy without know their names. The only way our moral government and people can justify killing is in time of war. Other times you'll have to face our police force, who are known to be less tolerent if your a murderer, kidnapper or rapist.

    If amazed at cultures who will cut off your hand if your steal a cupcake, but think nothing of stoning a women to death if her dowery is to small or she gets raped by a neighbor. Those thousands of honor killings every year do not raise a eyebrow with our Liberal democrat anti-war demonstrators.

    That $900K San Francisco spent last weekend to protect property and folks could have bought the freedom for thousands in the weekend slave market in Muslem Sudan.

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    I said I would not get drawn into this crap but I have to ..

    have you lunatics who keep saying how big these anti war rallies are, any idea of the tiny percentage of people that are involved in them? just look beyond your asses and get the population count for any of the cities involved get the figures for the anti war marches and do the math.
    I think you will be amazed. Hopefully you will also stop posting this kind of shoot and get behind the poor young kids that are defending you.

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    Sorry you got sucked in Gordon but glad to have you on the winning side.

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    It's really pathetic how some people think this is a game or something.

    The only thing you're doing is making the pro-war people loose credibility with your absurd and ignorant coments.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I'm not saying the protests aren't serious, but many people at them are going simply because its "the thing to do".
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    Personally, I am not out there protesting - because our troops are in harms way. My concern for American soldiers and respect for their families feelings doesnt mean that I dont think along the same lines as those who choose to protest.

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