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    Blogger removed entry because of court order
    Twenty hours ago I received this e-mail from Blogger: "Blogger: court order received, post removed" and it said:
    Hello,

    We'd like to inform you that we've received a court order regarding your
    blog www.xyz.com. Upon review, we've noted that content in a
    post in your blog is not in compliance with the court order. As a result,
    we've had to remove the post at
    http://www.xyz.title of blog entry

    Thank you for your understanding.

    Sincerely,
    The Blogger Team
    Sure enough that entry was removed even though I publish everything on my own host and not with blogspot.
    All I did was comment on a report from The TIMESONLINE with the link to the original article.

    Blogger should have given me more information about the court order -- at least it would have been an interesting read
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    "All I did was comment on a report from The TIMESONLINE with the link to the original article."

    What was it about?

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    I'm a little confused - you host your blog yourself, but Blogger removed the post?

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    It does not sound like you are truly hosting it yourself, on your own hosting account. If you were they'd have no reason to talk to Blogger.

    Despite that - can you give some more detail as the circumstances?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HecticDMC
    I'm a little confused - you host your blog yourself, but Blogger removed the post?
    True
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    If it is worth the read I'll let you repost it on one of my blogs !
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    how does blogger have access to your blog on your own domain on your own hosting account?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick24601
    It does not sound like you are truly hosting it yourself, on your own hosting account. If you were they'd have no reason to talk to Blogger.

    Despite that - can you give some more detail as the circumstances?
    I just noticed this e-mail from blogger.

    All my Blogger posts are FTP'd to my account with 1&1.
    I do not use Blogspot.
    I pay for that hosting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick24601
    how does blogger have access to your blog on your own domain on your own hosting account?
    Good Question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick24601
    how does blogger have access to your blog on your own domain on your own hosting account?
    I don't know.

    Could this have been an international court order?
    The topic deals with a wealthy Sultan and a divorce.

    The post was expunged but some of it appears through "Blog Search Beta" -- that's how I know which topic was taken out.

    I feel I have a right to read the court order -- which court gave this order?
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    If I'm not mistaken, in order to host your blogger.com blog on your own domain/hosting, you set up ftp info at Blogger.com and when you publish, it ftps the files to your server. They probably used that info to remove the post on your server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meadowmufn
    If I'm not mistaken, in order to host your blogger.com blog on your own domain/hosting, you set up ftp info at Blogger.com and when you publish, it ftps the files to your server. They probably used that info to remove the post on your server.
    So - the moral of the story is - don't use blogger for your blogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meadowmufn
    If I'm not mistaken, in order to host your blogger.com blog on your own domain/hosting, you set up ftp info at Blogger.com and when you publish, it ftps the files to your server. They probably used that info to remove the post on your server.
    The "offending post" was written in July.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhia7

    I feel I have a right to read the court order -- which court gave this order?
    I'd think you do
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    So Blogger used the FTP information you entrusted to them to log into your paid hosting account and delete files? Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexanne
    I'd think you do
    Blogger's "assistance" isn't that good.

    My post wasn't that long but I was getting lots of attention and controversy from the post. The funny thing is that when I made the entry I didn't think there was anything about my entry that would stand out since all I did was create a lead to a published newspaper article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snib
    So Blogger used the FTP information you entrusted to them to log into your paid hosting account and delete files? Wow.

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    That's what happened.

    Any commentary/summary I made was my own.
    I did not post someone else's article.

    I often create commentary about off-beat news as that's my favorite topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurgerBoy
    So - the moral of the story is - don't use blogger for your blogs.
    Which blogging service should I use?

    Would this happen again? It might have happened because I was blogging about a member of royalty, a Sultan and a divorced wife -- that was the topic.
    The Sutltan's ex-wife was dumb enough to waste an enormous sum of money by giving it to a [one of my major keywords in my site]. This small post attracted lots of attention.

    Did someone with money deny me of my freedom of speech to blog about a topic I found/still find interesting?
    I like to poke fun at royalty and celebrities.
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    Something's not right about this.

    Would love to hear the follow up and see how Blogger had the power or right to remove a post on YOUR domain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexanne
    Something's not right about this.

    Would love to hear the follow up and see how Blogger had the power or right to remove a post on YOUR domain.
    I'm not sure how to follow up. The e-mail subject header says:
    [#number]Blogger: court order received, post removed

    The text of the e-mail I transcribed above deleting references to my blog.

    I was not given a chance to fight this nor was any notice given me prior to the entry being expunged. and I'm not sure I want to take the time to fight Google.
    Google is denying me freedom of speech (backed by a Sultan's money?)
    I did not post anything that would hurt anybody.
    My blogs are related to current events and humor (with a twist) mainly.
    I always wanted to be a tabloid journalist (with a sense of humor).
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    I would think they'd have to notify you, show you the court order, and ASK you to take it down. If you didn't comply, THEN I can see them possibly taking the post down, but not before they talked to you.

    Very bizarre...
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    I'm sure somewhere deep down in the terms of service it's in there when you give them access to your servers FTP information. Which is another reason of many that Wordpress rules over blogger.

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    Install WordPress on your own server and use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meadowmufn
    I would think they'd have to notify you, show you the court order, and ASK you to take it down. If you didn't comply, THEN I can see them possibly taking the post down, but not before they talked to you.

    Very bizarre...
    I had no rights in this matter.
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