[PetsWarehouse.com]

Hi thanks for your question

We do not allow any co-reg or lead-gen many of those programs are not shall I say….. held to the most of ethical standards, nor do I see it as a benefit in selling pet supplies even if it were otherwise.

Our campaigns work best with emails, banners, coupons, PPC, data feeds and SEO.

Is that the only type of programs you affiliate with or would you be interested in working with our program?




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[stellarseller]

Thanks for getting back to me. My company is a affiliate networking company. We work CPA and coreg. I was just wondering if coreg works or if there is a coreg program for your or any other "pet" related advertiser. We may be interested in placement of your companies program on our network. Where do we go from here? I am not sure how to continue our conversation and what is appropriate on ABW forum. I am not sure if I can even expose my company due to all the discussions about paid advertising, etc. There is a reason why the newbie staus stays that way for a while...lol. I certainly do not want to break any rules here on ABW. Should I email you from your website or......?

[sunshiner]

Ok, this has nothing to do with the affiliate end per se of the site, but I was scrutinizing it, looking at the products, and I have a product suggestion that I am very surprised you don't carry. Up north, the heated kennel pads are great, but in the south, we need the cooling pads, some of them are gel filled, some are crystal filled, but they tend to be a big seller down here. Any chance of you getting them?

[PetsWarehouse.com]

Originally Posted by stellarseller

My company is a affiliate networking company. We work CPA and coreg.

But in your 25+ posts today and 75+ since you signed up this month you never signed one post with a name?

I was just wondering if coreg works

You said "My company is a affiliate networking company" so you're asking me if coreg works????????

Where do we go from here? I am not sure how to continue our conversation and what is appropriate on ABW forum. I am not sure if I can even expose my company due to all the discussions about paid advertising, etc. I certainly do not want to break any rules here on ABW.

You are going in the back door promoting your program which you are uncertain works yourself, I think that speaks volumes.

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[PetsWarehouse.com]

Originally Posted by sunshiner

Ok, this has nothing to do with the affiliate end per se of the site, but I was scrutinizing it, looking at the products, and I have a product suggestion that I am very surprised you don't carry. Up north, the heated kennel pads are great, but in the south, we need the cooling pads, some of them are gel filled, some are crystal filled, but they tend to be a big seller down here. Any chance of you getting them?

When we say "everything for your pet" we mean it.

We have six sizes here




On a recent trip down south our little long hair Chihuahua Dot Com had two gel bed inserts one in the fridge one in his bed ready to alternate.

In the winter the same beds can be used for heat.

If you do a search for "chillin" they will all show, we need to make them easier to find perhaps.

[kayecee]

Bob... I've sent an e-mail to you.... I've lurked a long time, but only recently signed up.... I don't have PM privileges yet....

[sunshiner]

Originally Posted by PetsWarehouse.com

When we say "everything for your pet" we mean it.

We have six sizes here




On a recent trip down south our little long hair Chihuahua Dot Com had two gel bed inserts one in the fridge one in his bed ready to alternate.

In the winter the same beds can be used for heat.

If you do a search for "chillin" they will all show, we need to make them easier to find perhaps.

Ya, I noticed that with certain items I was searching for, I had to a do a lot of searching. Thanks for pointing these out to me. I will pass this on to our member.

[stellarseller]

But in your 25+ posts today and 75+ since you signed up this month you never signed one post with a name?

Is it wrong to spend a Sunday morning reading and commenting here on ABW? Is that not the purpose of being here? I am enjoying the forum very much since I have become a member. I have learned a lot this month too! Am I required to sign every post with my name? I do not even have signature privilages for that matter. I am not hiding, nor do I have anything to hide. Is that comment of yours meant to be presented in a negative? I am confused?

You said "My company is a affiliate networking company" so you're asking me if coreg works????????

I was asking if you had a coreg channel in addition to the popular CPA channel. Of course coreg works. That is all. I had no ill intentions when asking the question. You make me feel as if you are not approachable, and not willing to help me understand how everything works. Have I somehow insulted you? I did not mean to insult you if you feel that way. Is that comment of yours meant to be presented in a negative? I am confused?

You are going in the back door promoting your program which you are uncertain works yourself, I think that speaks volumes.

Speaks volumes of what? I do not have a "back door" motive here. I am not promoting my company. By the way, I am certain my company is working just fine. I did not mention my company name, nor will I ever do that here on ABW. I am not here to promote my company. I am new to affiliate marketing. My position with my company is new. I am new. I am simply trying to learn more about the industry and get some deeper meaning, which is why I asked you the simply question that I now regret ever asking you in the first place. Yes, I am hurt and feel disrespected. You have me all wrong with these acusations. Is that comment of yours meant to be presented in a negative? I am confused?

It seems to me you are implying that I have some ulterior motive for making many posts today, and recently since i became a member. It also appears to me that you feel I have other motives for asking the questions I am asking. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I feel like you are beating me up here. I am just trying to learn. You are making my experience here on ABW very unenjoyable, taking from me my learning and understanding here on ABW. I don't get you.

[stellarseller]

Isn't the purpose of ABW forum to make new connections, learn and find comradery with peers in the industry? I am wondering as a result of Bob's replies to my posts in this forum. I am thinking I have said something that was somehow innapropriate. I did not intend to say anything to illicit the response that I received from Bob. Have I done something wrong here? Maybe I have it all wrong on how best to communicate on ABW? I have never experienced this before in a forum. I am really confused here...

[Donuts]

If the bigger font is you raising your voice, knock it off please.

Originally Posted by stellarseller

My company is a affiliate networking company. We work CPA and coreg. I was just wondering if coreg works or if there is a coreg program for your or any other "pet" related advertiser. We may be interested in placement of your companies program on our network. Where do we go from here? I am not sure how to continue our conversation and what is appropriate on ABW forum. I am not sure if I can even expose my company due to all the discussions about paid advertising, etc. There is a reason why the newbie staus stays that way for a while...lol. I certainly do not want to break any rules here on ABW. Should I email you from your website or......?

ABW Rules:
http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=53660

It's my opinion that you are recruiting here. It seems you are trying to recruit Bob's program into your CPA or Coreg Network.

Originally Posted by stellarseller

Is it wrong to spend a Sunday morning reading and commenting here on ABW? Is that not the purpose of being here?

Reading and commenting, and debating and more, is welcome. But if you're just trolling here to fing merchants for your coreg and cpa network, you're recruiting. Suggest you contact Haiko, pay for an ad, disclose who you and your company are and don't try to make your commenting sound like something other than your true goal, recruiting. Recruiting is allowed for paid advertisers - but not for people trolling around asking questions like they're an affiliate or an anonymous person that has happened onto ABW.

Originally Posted by stellarseller

I am not promoting my company.

Trying to contact people here to become merchants in your coreg network is what then?

Originally Posted by stellarseller

You have me all wrong with these acusations.

He's hardly accused you of anything. You asked about his interests in joining you by asking about his coreg channels, he's said no. Now you're playing the injured party. Take the "no" and move on.

Originally Posted by stellarseller

It seems to me you are implying that I have some ulterior motive for making many posts today, and recently since i became a member.

He doesn't need to imply anything, you said why you're interested in discussing coreg - please stop trying to make Bob the accuser, the negative poster, the attacker, the ulterior motive bandit or whatever.

Originally Posted by stellarseller

I feel like you are beating me up here.

Originally Posted by stellarseller

You are making my experience here on ABW very unenjoyable, taking from me my learning and understanding here on ABW.

And oh yeah, stop making Bob into some sort of vicious criminal as well.

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By the way, the beating hasn't begun yet. Bob's a very smart guy, he'll leave the beating to us. I suggest you learn and abide by the ABW rules before you embarass yourself and your company further. Drop the "i've been victimized" routine, stop hounding Bob for answers he's already given you, try to engage your fellow members with real discussion and if you intend to promote your company here, become a paid advertiser per the rules.

[Haiko de Poel, Jr.]

In a Word -> Ditto

[kayecee]

*tiptoes into thread and looks around*

Uhm.... I have no idea what a coreg thingy is, but I have some questions for Bob.... so y'all don't mind me.... I'm just researchin'....

1. What product lines are your top sellers?

2. Do larger affiliates tend to niche out as I am thinking of doing, or do mall-type sites with several pet offerings under one roof convert better?

3. Right now, I'm waiting on your feed. Are you going to be employing any tools such as Golden Can or PopShops? (I highly recommend both.... ESPECIALLY if the golden can is free of clicks.... hint.... hint... ) Jessie at PopShops is very helpful if you need to talk to someone over there. Wonderful, nice person!

Thank you.

[PetsWarehouse.com]

Originally Posted by kayecee

Uhm.... I have no idea what a coreg thingy is,

Just let's say you don't need co-reg

What product lines are your top sellers?

That's easy, aquariums and aqua products then dog & cat.

Do larger affiliates tend to niche out as I am thinking of doing, or do mall-type sites with several pet offerings under one roof convert better?

I think the niche sites are the winners, in fact some are niches within niches, what I mean by that is say bird supply site selling only bird cages.

Mall sites are good if their using a feed or better yet a shopping comparison site, we usually have what everyone else doesn't and at usually a lower price so we win.

The failures are the banner farm sites, and the ones that sell 10 different merchants with no focus, users need to be led by the nose not just pick a merchant willy nilly.

Right now, I'm waiting on your feed. Are you going to be employing any tools such as Golden Can or PopShops?

We have been working with both companies, the problem I have is that both of them will offer our feed to any approved affiliate, I asked if they can incorporate an individual affilate approval system.

Both Angel and Asif were very receptive of developing something along these lines.

I hope to hear from each of them shortly.

Great questions thanks for taking the time to ask.


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[Sue]

Bob,

Just trying to understand your comment about Popshops. Do you mean that you only want certain affiliates to see your feed? I find popshops a great way to find new merchants and to check out what they have in their feed. If I don't see your items coming up in their search I'm not going to even realise that you are around to be joined.

Well ... actually I'm already in your program ... so it's more a generic request for an explanation ... assuming that I'm on the approved list


Sue.

[kayecee]

At first, I was very interested in the aquariums... then I noticed the shipping costs are prohibitive messages.... do you think that impacts internet sales for those items? Do they still sell well?

[PetsWarehouse.com]

Originally Posted by Staril

Bob,Just trying to understand your comment about Popshops. Do you mean that you only want certain affiliates to see your feed?

Yes that's correct it is proprietary property, we are selective.
We want quality affiliates not quantities that will dilute the feed in the SEO.

If I don't see your items coming up in their search I'm not going to even realise that you are around to be joined.

I believe you will see it is available, but only on approval, not a big deal no one is going thru the third degree.

... assuming that I'm on the approved list

Sue of course you are.



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[PetsWarehouse.com]

Originally Posted by kayecee

At first, I was very interested in the aquariums... then I noticed the shipping costs are prohibitive messages.... do you think that impacts internet sales for those items? Do they still sell well?

Kayecee, the shipping costs are high, but 80% of the buyers know that, but even with shipping they save money over their local store.

The message is to quailifiy the window shoppers looking at small tanks from the buyers looking at larger tanks.

Tanks and cabinets are shipped by common carrier, the minimum charge is $110 average is $250.

But that sale is $600-$1,000 and often $2500 dollars so as a 10-15% of the COG is't not expensive, we ship out setups almost every day.

But as an affiliate you don't want to offer tanks that are smaller than 46 gallons.

To ship a 20 gallon tank can cost the same as 55 because of the min shipping rates.

But it is a great niche area.


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[PetsWarehouse.com]

Almost forgot, we just brought on a line of acrylic tanks that are shipping FedEx because they are lightweight and not as fragile as glass at lower shipping costs.

SeaClear tanks





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[kayecee]

Hmmmmm.... ok, Bob.... one suggestion.... (sorry... just trying to help) perhaps the terminology could be tweaked somewhat on your tanks for your website.... maybe it's just me.... Some definitions of prohibitive: unreasonable, unaffordable..... to me, it brought to mind that the shipping is so outrageous on that item that you don't ship it.... that a consumer has to pick it up at your physical location...

it also sounds too much like the word prohibit which means to forbid.... to a consumer who might be in a hurry, they might mistake the word for prohibit and leave the page because they're under the impression that shipping is forbidden on this item, and since they live too far away to pick it up, they're not interested..... we all know we have to make it as easy as possible for consumers who are already on information overload...

Is there a tentative date on implementing any tools like Golden Can or PopShops?

[stellarseller]

This all has been a misunderstanding. I am not promoting my company. I have never mentioned my company name. I am not here for that. I joined here on ABW and have asked questions because I am new to the industry and I am trying to learn.

[PetsWarehouse.com]

Originally Posted by kayecee

Hmmmmm.... ok, Bob.... one suggestion.... (sorry... just trying to help) perhaps the terminology could be tweaked somewhat on your tanks for your website.... maybe it's just me.... Some definitions of prohibitive: unreasonable, unaffordable..... to me, it brought to mind that the shipping is so outrageous on that item that you don't ship it.... that a consumer has to pick it up at your physical location...

This type of feedback is invaluable, we see this all the time and to us it made sense.


There’s nothing like a fresh set of eyes to bring this abrasive language to our attention.


Basically all tanks under 45 gallons in size can not be economically shipped.


Here is what the description says now



Shipping, store pick up only - shipping costs prohibitive



I’m open to suggestions.

Is there a tentative date on implementing any tools like Golden Can or PopShops?

Not yet but I expect two weeks.



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[writerguy]

Originally Posted by PetsWarehouse.com

Not yet but I expect two weeks.

Hey, I haven't checked goldencan.com yet, but I've been using the Pets Warehouse datafeed on PopShops.com all week. Works great.

[kayecee]

Ahhhh... see... when I wrote my earlier post, I was reading this tank description... there's no punctuation, so it ran together and I read it wrong....

1590512055
All-Glass AGA brand 55 gal aquarium-oak 48x13x21 fob-0 special shipping store pick up only - shipping costs prohibitive

Because of the special shipping part, I thought it is shipped to a customer, but only if they're willing to pay a big price....

That's where my confusion was coming in and why I was saying something about the prohibitive term....

So then, this item is not shipped at all, correct? Perhaps dropping the phrase special shipping would prevent someone from thinking they could order it and get some sort of special shipping....

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread... you seem very responsive to input, so I look forward to doing business with you.... I can't wait until the feed and such all comes together..... I'll be preparing my content now...

[kayecee]

Gary.... seriously?

*runs off to play*

[Dan367]

I have to say that you guys are one of the most responsive programs around.

Can you explain a little bit about selling fish, like how it all works with shipping arriving alive etc.?



Dan