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Old April 9th, 2008, 10:53 PM
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The way we do it is to manually credit affiliates for sales that come through using their exclusive coupons (if they didn't already receive credit). Coupon use is fairly low on our site, so it's not much trouble to track those sales manually.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 12:43 AM
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So I guess issues like this supersede the policy about not posting other affiliates' websites ( http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=60117 ). I completely understand the validity of this thread, and I'm just pointing out that if anything, the policy needs to be clarified, and not necessarily this post edited.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 10:09 AM
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[QUOTE]"truly exclusive coupon tracking"QUOTE]How does that work?
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Old April 10th, 2008, 10:46 AM
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"truly exclusive coupon tracking" = An exclusive coupon that tracks to the affiliate that it was issued to, even if there's no affiliate cookie or a different affiliate's cookie.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 11:25 AM
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Affiliates and Merchants:

All of these have been removed, we have instituted new filters to prevent our users from submitting these in the future. If you submit a coupon with one of those strings you'll get an error saying that it is not allowed. We are trying to be a good community member.

Affiliates:

If we have missed you contact via email and we'll get you set.
Please feel free to repost our exclusive codes we like the advertising!

Merchants:

If you'd like your store page locked so users can not submit new coupons at all, we can do this, please contact us.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 12:33 PM
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repost our exclusive codes????? Then they wouldn't be all that "exclusive" would they?
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Old April 10th, 2008, 12:45 PM
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Wow, you're off to an excellent start...
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Old April 10th, 2008, 01:10 PM
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repost our exclusive codes????? Then they wouldn't be all that "exclusive" would they?
As if they were ever really exclusive, please. 99% of these "exclusive" coupons are the SAME OFFER given to any affiliate that asks for an "exclusive" with a new code.

Focus on building _real_ value for your users, not just perceived value by claiming 200 "exclusive" coupons.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 01:25 PM
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STOP CRAWLING OUR SITES and STEAL OUR CONTENT.

YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED to STEAL OUR COUPON TITLES, CODES etc.

DEALGUY - YOU ARE PLAZIARIZING and VIOLATING COPYRIGHT LAWS in the NAME of FAKE COMMUNITY
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Old April 10th, 2008, 01:26 PM
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This attitude is the precise reason my best merchant won't issue an exclusive coupon code for my readers/my site only...

I've sent thousands of visitors their way - they want to compensate me & give me exclusivity for all my hard work, but we can't figure out how to get around this warped sense of entitlement by others.

Thanks for that..
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Old April 10th, 2008, 02:29 PM
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STOP CRAWLING OUR SITES and STEAL OUR CONTENT.
Is he crawling? Seems like they're user submitted, but I could be wrong.

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Old April 10th, 2008, 03:24 PM
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"Affiliates:
If we have missed you contact via email and we'll get you set.
Please feel free to repost our exclusive codes we like the advertising!"

Dealguy - rather than email you I'd rather just post here so I'm sure there's no chance you may not get my email for some reason.

I'd very much appreciate it if you would please remove mine from your site, also. Just remove any that have anything that mentions purple in them in any way.
Thank you
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Old April 10th, 2008, 03:53 PM
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Is he crawling? Seems like they're user submitted, but I could be wrong.

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Yes, crawling, stealing, copying ..

This DEALGUY need to be taught a big lesson for copyright violations
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Old April 10th, 2008, 04:04 PM
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Yes, crawling, stealing, copying ..

This DEALGUY need to be taught a big lesson for copyright violations
But does this fall under DMCA? That's an important distinction to make. I checked the site and didn't see a DMCA notice, so I'm not sure if he can claim it. If all of his content is user-submitted then it falls under DMCA and he isn't legally held liable for copyrighted content. He just needs to remove it upon request by the copyright holder. I'm not trying to defend him, but I just think he needs to be clear about where the data is coming from. In the end can coupon codes be copyrighted anyway?

I think the biggest problem here is he's probably going against program terms by listing unauthorized coupons. But if he isn't part of the affiliate programs then he isn't technically constrained by those program terms.

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Old April 10th, 2008, 04:25 PM
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Snib, Our coupon content (coupon titles/descriptions) are unique and done by a dedicated team. That unique content / presentation is our copyrighted material. Generic Coupon Codes are not copyrighted but exclusive coupon codes we get are a result of our work and they are exclusive for our sites only.

DealLocker has crawled many coupon sites and lifted not only EXCLUSIVE codes but also their content verbatim in many cases.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 12:27 AM
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Only the ones listed have been removed. He still has tons of stolen coupon codes from other sites.

Google AdSense actively pursues violators under the DMCA. Since he has AdSense on his site, he's risking termination of his AdSense account if you follow the procedures at https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...9894&topic=145.

The offending site is registered to an address in Houston, TX which is owned by his father who is the Chairman of the Dept. of Pathology at Baylor College of Medicine. All public information.

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Old April 12th, 2008, 01:03 AM
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So I guess issues like this supersede the policy about not posting other affiliates' websites ( http://forum.abestweb.com/showthread.php?t=60117 ). I completely understand the validity of this thread, and I'm just pointing out that if anything, the poIlicy needs to be clarified, and not necessarily this post edited.
I know all of the site owners and assumed it was reasonable to post... especially since people needed to see the extent of what was going on.. hard to show the point without showing the codes... The folks on this list are not gunshy about who they are and do not attempt to hide their sites and are well known icons in the industry. Of course if anyone was bothered, I would be happy to edit.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 11:53 AM
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The rule about revealing affiliate sites is generally relaxed in these situations:

1) If it's an affiliate with unethical behavior
2) If it's an affiliate who has revealed their own site here, or
3) If it's a high profile affiliate that is well known in the industry.

In addition, the revealing should be something that is for the betterment of ABW and/or affiliate marketing as a whole.

The point about updating the official rule to reflect these exceptions is a good one, but probably unnecessary. It's rare enough that expanding the rules would probably just make the rules more confusing. It's probably best to keep the rules as a strict prohibition and evaluate the exceptions one by one.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 03:36 PM
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Is he crawling? Seems like they're user submitted, but I could be wrong.
They are posting non existant coupons as well. They have posted coupons for my merchant site which has neither coupons nor affiliates. It looks like they're scraping Google. I am positive that no user could have submitted coupons for my site because there aren't any; they don't exist. Funny thing is the same day they showed up on DealLocker they also showed up on Boddit.co.uk
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 11:12 AM
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Does anyone on here know how to contact deallocker to get content removed from their site? I tried a general email address found on their Ts&Cs but they haven't responded (and it's been 3 weeks). THX!
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 11:53 AM
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Does anyone on here know how to contact deallocker to get content removed from their site? I tried a general email address found on their Ts&Cs but they haven't responded (and it's been 3 weeks). THX!
If they are stealing ur coupons, post on here as they do monitor it. Or some AM will help you.
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