Thread: I've seen cheaters before, but these take the cake! |
|

May 28th, 2008, 12:51 PM
|
|
Affiliate Manager
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Location: Warren, PA
Posts: 290
|
|
I said I would no longer post here, but these violations were SO unethical, I figured I should clue in other AM's.
As I'm sure most of you are aware, Blair.com has a no bidding policy on our Brand terms. We do have separate contracts with a couple of upstanding affiliates to do so. Over the Memorial Day Weekend, Blair.com did a big promotion. And... as expected, two non-approved affiliates were bidding on our terms.
But... that's just the tip of the iceberg. The promo ran Friday thru Monday. They didn't bid during business hours on Friday and Monday. They only bid in the evening hours, and on the weekend. And... they were sending the traffic straight to Blair.com. I think that's bad enough right there. But... they even went a step further.
These two affiliates COPIED our Google ad boxes completely, along with the circle R trademark logo, and the words "Official Site".
So... on the weekend late at night before I went to bed, when I checked Google looking for cheaters, I saw what I thought was my ad, though it was actually an affiliate ad. The only reason they got caught was because they were stupid enough to use copy for an expired offer. The copy actually said "Exp. 4/15".
I've kicked the violators out of our program and have reversed their sales. If you would like to know who the two violators were who were doing this, send me a message. Due to the hostility usually surrounding my posts, this will be my only post in this thread.
__________________
Christopher Park
Affiliate/Partnerships Manager
Blair.com
cjpark@blair.com
(814)726-6074
AIM: BLAIRAffiliates
Twitter: BLAIRAffiliates
|

May 28th, 2008, 04:37 PM
|
|
ABW Ambassador
Join Date: May 18th, 2007
Location: Yes, sadly I'm in California
Posts: 514
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Blair.com
The only reason they got caught was because they were stupid enough to use copy for an expired offer. The copy actually said "Exp. 4/15".
|
Darwin Awards for Affiliates.
|

May 28th, 2008, 04:39 PM
|
|
Full Member
Join Date: January 21st, 2007
Location: Bartonsville, Pennsylvania
Posts: 414
|
|
Darwin Awards for this "only" post.
Jim
|

May 28th, 2008, 05:00 PM
|
|
Newbie
Join Date: October 31st, 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 58
|
|
Really dislike such practices.
I guess there is room for automated trademark monitoring to be implemented.
|

May 29th, 2008, 06:44 AM
|
|
Affiliate Manager
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Location: Warren, PA
Posts: 290
|
|
Get this...
Go to Google and type in blair.com. Do you see the first ad that states: Blair(R) Official Site?
That's not my ad. Once I threw out one of the offenders, their sister site decided to take over.
__________________
Christopher Park
Affiliate/Partnerships Manager
Blair.com
cjpark@blair.com
(814)726-6074
AIM: BLAIRAffiliates
Twitter: BLAIRAffiliates
|

May 29th, 2008, 06:52 AM
|
|
Newbie
Join Date: October 31st, 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 58
|
|
I'm in UK, so I don't see any ads except one for Tony Blair which is for UK newspaper.
|

May 29th, 2008, 08:09 AM
|
|
Domain Addict / Formerly known as elbowcreek
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Posts: 5,426
|
|
I don't see any, but perhaps you have removed them already. At google, if I search for 'blair', two coupon sites pop up.
Have you ever contracted out with AFP to give your proogram a once over?
__________________
I Will FOCUS On My Goal
|

May 29th, 2008, 08:24 AM
|
|
Online Marketing Consultant
Join Date: October 16th, 2006
Location: Washington D.C.
Posts: 2,196
|
|
Also, if you try doing your search in MSN you'll find 4 more, 1 which you mentioned already and 3 which you did not who are also notorious for this behavior....you may also want to check aol, miva, ask and the others and you'll keep finding more and more.
|

May 29th, 2008, 09:33 AM
|
|
ABW Founder
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Location: New York
Posts: 21,649
|
|
Well ... When You Lay with Dogs You Get Fleas!
That said, it would behove you to out the offenders so that other programs can take approrpiate action.
__________________
Continued Success,
Haiko
The secret of success is constancy of purpose ~ Disraeli
|

May 29th, 2008, 12:46 PM
|
|
Domain Addict / Formerly known as elbowcreek
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Posts: 5,426
|
|
Not sure where Kanoodle.com gets traffic, but they have 2 advertisers bidding on "blair.com"
__________________
I Will FOCUS On My Goal
|

May 30th, 2008, 07:23 AM
|
|
Affiliate Manager
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Location: Warren, PA
Posts: 290
|
|
One of the offending affiliates wrote back to me after I sent the letter telling him he'd been deactivated and that his sales were being reversed. He apologized and said that he had been having trouble with "negative keywords" recently.
Well that explains it. Now I feel bad for being quite so harsh. Hey... wait! What does negative keywords have to do with copying my Google ad exactly, and sending the traffic directly to Blair.com?
__________________
Christopher Park
Affiliate/Partnerships Manager
Blair.com
cjpark@blair.com
(814)726-6074
AIM: BLAIRAffiliates
Twitter: BLAIRAffiliates
|

May 30th, 2008, 09:15 AM
|
|
ABW Ambassador
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Location: Mansfield, TX
Posts: 15,740
|
|
I think what he meant to say was that he forgot to filter based on your IP address.
|

May 30th, 2008, 11:35 AM
|
|
Lite On The Do, Heavy On The Nuts
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Location: Winter Park, FL
Posts: 6,924
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by MichaelColey
I think what he meant to say was that he forgot to filter based on your IP address. 
|
Bahahaha. I wet myself a little right there, maybe some new drawers in my future, Depends.
|

May 30th, 2008, 12:10 PM
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: January 18th, 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 8,882
|
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Donuts
Bahahaha. I wet myself a little right there, maybe some new drawers in my future, Depends.
|
You want an affiliate link to buy them??
__________________
ABW Forum Rules - Advertise At ABW - None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free (J. W. Von Goethe) - Politicians should be limited to 2 terms - One in office and one in prison. Give me a minute before I post again.
|
 |

Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|